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[-] SIGSEGV@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

What makes you say that? Who knows what they'll want to do in the future. Even the most mundane historic records interest today's archeologists.

[-] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

That's a fair question, but I think the answer is obvious. Until the invention of photography, literally the only formal records we had of past events were the things people bothered to write down, paint, or sculpt. And of those, we only have the arts and written records that actually survived. So to find out information about the distant past, we have little choice but to extrapolate from artifacts, dig up old buildings, etc. The artifacts and records that we do find have outsized influence on our understanding of the past, compared to all the information and details that have been lost, which can literally never be recovered.

From the 21st century onward, that relationship is inverted. Any hypothetically useful unit of information about the past will be recorded hundreds or thousands of times, and the useless units of information will outnumber the useful units by many orders of magnitude. Sure, if someone proves to be exceptionally notable, there may be some value in decrypting their past Amazon purchases or cracking the encrypted SSD they left behind. But that's going to be the exceedingly rare exception, rather than the rule, especially when the world's data stores are crammed with news articles, photos, videos, interviews, blog posts, reddit posts, journals, and non-encrypted records that appear to tell a complete story of the lives of notable people, and for that matter the day-to-day lives of regular folk.

And that SSD may be every bit as exciting as the Hunter Biden laptop hard disk... that is, barely exciting at all, and full of such routine and irrelevant information as to be an almost pointless exercise in data forensics.

[-] SIGSEGV@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That's fair. Adding to my point, with the wealth of information future people will have at their disposal, it could be possible to recreate this time era. That is, to simulate entire cities or countries. Who knows what tech they'll have or what they'll want to do with it. My point is that the info from this time period, between the advent of the internet and the widespread use of quantum-safe crypto, will be easily accessible to them, and contains such an accurate record of our daily activities. I've had the same email address since 2005 and have never deleted messages, so my email alone could probably be used to create a pretty accurate model of a large chunk of my life. Cross-reference that with the information the people I associate with left behind and they definitely could create such a model.

And, adding further, if you were inclined to create such a simulation, you'd likely want to simulate as many people as possible so that the simulation was as realistic as possible.

[-] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I can't believe I forgot about this, but if you really want to explore the question of future people reconstructing the past through AI, watch the movie Marjorie Prime, which is explicitly about this question.

[-] SIGSEGV@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

Thanks for the recommendation! I love stuff like that.

[-] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

We must have VERY different opinions of what our shopping habits or e-mails say about us. My email wouldn't tell you jack squat.

[-] SIGSEGV@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 year ago

What about your text messages and phone calls?

[-] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, almost nothing. SMS is a utility tool for me. I doubt anyone will ever care that my wife wanted more zip-lock bags.

You'd get a better picture of me through old USENET posts (which are unencrypted, of course), or reddit or web forums or Lemmy (all of them unencrypted, I suspect). Good luck, future people.

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