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Why so salty? I am making an app that I want to stick on the background, and would like it to be cross-platform. I mean, there should be some way to achieve something this basic right? Also, Wayland is going to become the default, and most distros will switch to it.
Any time you point out any flaw in linux the fanboys come out to have a screech and tell you how its all your fault actually. I've learned you just gotta ignore them.
If's FOSS, don't cry about it, implement the feature the way you think is best; just like every one else.
it will be refused in the name of security. Which is notreally a good argument. "it rather involved being on the other side of that airtight hatchway" type of thing
That's how FOSS works. Good ideas get adopted, bad ideas lose adoption. Even I dropped Gnome because of their bike shedding. This is the way.
well that's the problem. "I don't use it therefore it must be a bad idea"
"Everybody's adopting other solutions. Our idea must be bad. Let's consider other other solutions and decide if we want to continue with our current implementation." /FTFY
everyone's adopting it because they're forced to. And shut up with your "but you can use X", some distros literally plan to drop support for it entirely.
Get out of here. "Everyone"??? Well then, "everyone" can put their effort and their money behind the solution they want. Nobody is stopping them. If they do nothing, then they made their choice. That's how FOSS works. If other people are paying and doing the work, while you and "everyone" does nothing, you have no room to complain.
It is a design decision to have it implemented by each compositor. which means each one will implement it differently. Currently, the gtk4 layer shell supports some, like sway and hyperland, but not others, like gnome
Sounds like a good opportunity to add the features in the way you see fit.
Obviously, I can't create the entire universe by my own, adding features in the way I see fit depends also on what others create. In this case, the app won't be cross-platform, and users will complain when it doesn't work properly on their distro. So I don't see the issue with me complaining a bit as well.
And Linux people wonder why the year of the "desktop" never comes...
Gatekeep much?
You have the opportunity to be the change you want to see or make the change you want to see. Whining and crying about it doesn't help anybody. It's time you learned that.
Would you look at that? Heres one now.
You got me. Average FOSS user here. Be the change you want to see or make the changes you want to see. Stop whining and complaining. Pretty simple.
You just haven't tried it with the latest release of this fork of Plasma.
Then I'll make my OWN distro. With blackjack. And hookers.
Seriously though... I will have NO desktop environment and run terminal only before I will accept Wayland. Either reach feature parity and stop gaslighting me about functionality that has been there in X11 for decades and is a necessary part of my workflow, or back off.
Out of curiosity, what features does x11 have that are essential to you?
Amen.
You're pigeonholing yourself into an environment which can't support basic functions life þis. Use Xorg, and you'll be able to do it.
Bold of you to assume Wayland devs do things like absolutely everything else, in fact the opposite is true. As a rule of thumb Wayland devs must always do everything completely differently from everyone else and if you dont like that feel free to ignore the less than 2% of people who use Linux.