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Arab officials: Trump envoy swayed Netanyahu more in one meeting than Biden did all year
(www.timesofisrael.com)
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As I said, truly remarkable you trust Arab figures speaking on anonymity and Donald Trump's word for what he supposedly did.
Tell me, did he "do the weave"? Lmao.
Forgetting you sourced Times of Israel. What a gem. What's next, RT?
What a colosally flimsy house of cards to build the hill you're choosing to die on.
You do not understand what the source means.
Israelis are mad about the ceasefire. They are angry at Trump. You just admitted that Biden forcing a ceasefire would earn him criticism from Israel.
Netanyahu is trying to wiggle out of the ceasefire with his classic lies and Trump will not let him. Biden would gladly blame Hamas for another twelve rounds of failed negotiations like he has done for the past year.
No, I said Biden restricting weapons would earn him criticism from Israel, as well as domestically. Huge difference.
To reiterate the dodged points:
Circular Reasoning Fallacy: We have yet to establish that Trump had anything to actually do with the ceasefire beyond unreliable sources, speaking from anonymity, cited by yet another unreliable source controlled by the PM who sought Trump's reelection in the first place.
Given both Bibi and Trump's propensity for showboating, this is all political theatrics to make Trump look good. If I was a piece of shit like them, I'd do the same thing.
A ceasefire is utterly meaningless by this point anyway. If you haven't noticed, Trump told Bibi to "Finish the job," and Bibi pretty much did. There isn't much left in gaza to cease firing upon in the first place. The damage is done.
Trump and Bibi are closer than Bibi and Biden. If you can't grasp this, you will in time.
Nobody and I mean absolutely nobody is closer to Netanyahu than Joe BIden. And if you do not know this you do not know anything about Joe Biden.
Oh? When did Biden say to Bibi, "Finish the job."? In addition to providing arms to Israel over the course of Trump's first term, he also moved the embassy to Jeruselum. Did Biden do that? No siree.
If you weren't aware, they had a falling out over the course of 2024 with reports indicating this as early as February. Before that I might be inclined to agree, Trump's lack of moral character notwithstanding.
Biden said that right here
So he did not say that, or move the embassy to Jeruselum and merely continued the same track, as I had already said and without any sort of rebuttal, considering the a) damage to Democrats and b) Trump reversing course the second he gets into office anyway.
Moot.
My points still stand.
So ultimately he was doing less than what Trump did do in his first term, and said he would do. Got it.
Oh I'm sure Trump will be far more amicable to the plight of Palestinians. Go tell tell them what you did! They'll be so proud!
You can live in this alternative fairy tale fantasy where we had some 3rd option; I'll remain firmly planted in reality where there is a gradient of harm inflicted, and the election was a binary choice.
Say how'd your vote for Stein go? Shucks, if only she had like 49% more votes... So close, right?
Not exactly thinking this through with any depth when the fallout is cementing the greater genocidal administration.
Strange how Bibi and AIPAC wanted Trump to win. I'm shocked I tell ya.
Good sir/madam, I'm deflecting merely to the elephant in the room. Why focus on the little fish on the eve of the big fish entering office?
Let's just see how good Trump is for Palestinians going forward ;)
Don't forget to pat yourself on the back for this pyrrhic victory.