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[-] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 51 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Cool, now which is easier to build movements under, a fascist regime, or a moderate milquetoast capitalist regime?

Let's be real here, the kind of person ranting on the internet about "ThE DuOpOlY" is not actually interested in building anything at all. They just like to stomp their feet, and shout "no fair!" over and over again like the petculant children they are, while the grownups are busy trying to prevent the country from descending into fascism.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago

Not the same person, but I carry similar sentiments. I helped form the second largest tech union in North America. What are you doing to support the working working class and build alternatives to capital? Tossing support at the nearest person in fear doesn't prevent fascism.

[-] wildncrazyguy138@fedia.io 11 points 4 months ago

To use your example, here are the options:

  • today we can definitely get a Union that covers some tech workers but not all of them.

Or

  • today we can try to get a Union for all tech workers, but it’s a long shot. And if we lose, the consequences are that we don’t get another union vote for 4 years and during that time, the tech companies get to run rampant with negative propaganda about unions, making the challenge even harder next time.

Which would you choose, second largest tech union guy?

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

False dichotomy. The stakes of the second version are the same for the first regardless of union size. There never has been and never will be a guaranteed union campaign until we overthrow capitalism.

[-] ZeroCool@slrpnk.net 9 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Voting against the fascist candidate abso-fucking-lutely prevents fascism. This is an extremely simple concept that one would imagine the founder of the second-largest tech union in North America should be able to wrap their mind around.

[-] rockSlayer@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

I think my point has been missed. The fact that there's an openly fascist candidate running for president means that fascism is already here and in power.

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