761

New court documents reveal that Russia is keeping a very, very long list of influencers to spread its propaganda.

The Russian disinformation plot revealed in a Justice Department indictment this week may just be the tip of the iceberg, according to newly unsealed court documents.

On Wednesday, the DOJ announced it would seize 32 internet domains linked to a larger Kremlin scheme to promote disinformation and influence the 2024 election. The Russian campaign, known as Doppelganger, uses AI-generated content to create “fake news” boosted through social media with the aim of electing Donald Trump. 

Of particular note, the documents released Wednesday included an affidavit that noted a Russian company is keeping a list of more than 2,800 influencers world wide, about one-fifth of whom are based in the United States, to monitor and potentially groom to spread Russian propaganda. The affidavit does not mention the full list of influencers, but is still a terrifying indicator of how deep the Russian plot to interfere in U.S. politics really goes.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 1 week ago

Saudis aren’t trying to get Trump elected

The Israelis are, though.

But Russia influence is really bad.

US business interests have more influence over Russian foreign policy than Russians have on the US.

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 17 points 1 week ago

Russia is quite sanctioned, and the remaining US Business interest in Russia was looted / stolen by the Russians.

The business connection between USA and Russia is basically gone. Most (IE Elon Musk) are now making huge moves towards China now.

What remains are RT and other Russian disinfo groups

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The business connection between USA and Russia is basically gone.

Clearly not, or Russians wouldn't be able to slide cash into the pockets of social media influencers so easily.

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Clearly not, or Russians wouldn’t be able to slide cash into the pockets of social media influencers so easily.

They didn't. They got caught by the FBI and now we have massive news articles proving Russian influence. They literally just got caught, despite their best efforts at hiding.

Now comes the hard work at figuring out which of these 2800 influencers are fucking traitors... and which ones were just caught up in the mess. But someone in there had to have known that Russian money was part of this scheme.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

They got caught by the FBI

After paying off the podcasters

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes. That is how crimes work. The crime happens and then the FBI looks at you afterwards.

Are you... American? This crap is taught at grade school level.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

That is how crimes work.

Which banks facilitied these illegal donations and what sanctions are they going to suffer?

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Banks are required to have KYC (know your customer) rules and report things to the FBI. Which the FBI received the reports and have caught the criminals.

I'm convinced you aren't American at this point and don't have any understanding of how crime or police work around here.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Banks are required to have KYC (know your customer) rules and report things to the FBI.

So which bank is being penalized for doing business with a Russian client operating under US sanctions?

I’m convinced you aren’t American

Why stop there? Be convinced I'm not human at all.

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Because you obviously are asking stupid questions that Americans already know the answer for.

For all the bullshit Europeans chastised me as an American for having an American centered viewpoints, we are talking about an American Police dealing with American Crimes in an efficient manner. And then we have someone in this discussion who doesn't even know the basics.

The least I expect of you is to at least pretend you have an American viewpoint of our police system and understand it (not necessarily agree with it). But if you want to ask dumb fucking questions all day imma call you out on your ignorance.


So which bank is being penalized for doing business with a Russian client operating under US sanctions?

The bank that obviously reported this suspicious behavior to the FBI and got these assholes caught.

What, are you pissed that these Russians got caught in this scheme or something? This is a celebration topic. We caught the bad guys and caught them quickly before the election.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

The bank that obviously reported this suspicious behavior to the FBI

And then continued to advance the money? That doesn't pass the smell test and you know it.

This is just the HSBC drug money laundering scandal all over again, except these bankers aren't even being fined for getting caught.

What, are you pissed that these Russians got caught in this scheme or something?

Are they actually caught? Which employees of RT were arrested?

Or is this just shutting down some Internet domains and allowing the next batch of crooks to do this again?

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We can't get the Russians because FBI is Police. The FBIs limits are inside of the USA.

But we can point out the specific entities/middlemen to ban them from financ moving forward. https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy2559

This announcement is that MOVING FORWARD, the listed entities are illegal to interact with. It was legal to send funds last week if you were a bank.

Or is this just shutting down some Internet domains and allowing the next batch of crooks to do this again?

Yeah. That's the police's job. Now the crooks have to start their infiltration all over again. Hopefully that delays this batch of propaganda till after the election. But it's tireless thankless work.

Now unless we send assassins into Russia or some other drastic action, we can't really stop this. It's foreign influence and Russia doesn't follow our Police requests to deport / send the criminals to the USA.


Now that you've proven yourself ignorant of American stuffs, please go through fuck away.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

We can’t get the Russians because FBI is Police.

Why can't we get Benny Johnson and Tim Pool for taking their money without being registered foreign agents?

Or any of the bankers, brokers, and agents that moved the money on the American side of transaction?

This announcement is that MOVING FORWARD, the listed entities are illegal to interact with.

So you get a couple of new guys cycled in to be the bag men, and we do this again in five years to the same effect?

"Oops! How could we have known?! Oh well. Guess I'll just start taking money from Russia Tomorrow instead, since I don't know where that cash is coming from either."

Now the crooks have to start their infiltration all over again

A trivial endeavor for an agency that's been exploiting an ad sector more than willing to cooperate with anyone carrying a suitcase full of case.

Now unless we send assassins into Russia

You don't need to send anyone in Russia to arrest the folks complicit with Russian disinformation in the States right now.

But just like with the Trump indictments, this never actually goes anywhere.

Now that you’ve proven yourself ignorant of American stuffs

Too ignorant to know Americans will howl about "Russian interference" and then do nothing about it?

Damn. Busted.

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

So you get a couple of new guys cycled in to be the bag men, and we do this again in five years to the same effect?

Yup. Good enough for me.

Everything else you've got is pretty trash in terms of talking points. You're even contradicting your own earlier posts. Try being more consistent ideologically next time.

Why can’t we get Benny Johnson and Tim Pool for taking their money without being registered foreign agents?

The fuck is this whattaboutism for example? These guys aren't even related to the case discussed.

We have a list of 2800 influencers who have been caught up into some Russian disinformation campaign, about 20% of whom are American and thus have rights against being outted right now (at least, until further crimes are found plausible). I'd say this is a big deal. And further interaction with the money is banned.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Yup. Good enough for me.

And that's liberalism in a nutshell.

Never solve the problem. Just put a band aid on to cover it up.

[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago
[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[-] dragontamer@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago

Sounds like something a non-American would say.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

MSNBC in a nutshell

this post was submitted on 07 Sep 2024
761 points (100.0% liked)

politics

18870 readers
3378 users here now

Welcome to the discussion of US Politics!

Rules:

  1. Post only links to articles, Title must fairly describe link contents. If your title differs from the site’s, it should only be to add context or be more descriptive. Do not post entire articles in the body or in the comments.
  2. Articles must be relevant to politics. Links must be to quality and original content. Articles should be worth reading. Clickbait, stub articles, and rehosted or stolen content are not allowed. Check your source for Reliability and Bias here.
  3. Be civil, No violations of TOS. It’s OK to say the subject of an article is behaving like a (pejorative, pejorative). It’s NOT OK to say another USER is (pejorative). Strong language is fine, just not directed at other members. Engage in good-faith and with respect! This includes accusing another user of being a bot or paid actor. Trolling is uncivil and is grounds for removal and/or a community ban.
  4. No memes, trolling, or low-effort comments. Reposts, misinformation, off-topic, trolling, or offensive.
  5. Vote based on comment quality, not agreement. This community aims to foster discussion; please reward people for putting effort into articulating their viewpoint, even if you disagree with it.
  6. No hate speech, slurs, celebrating death, advocating violence, or abusive language. This will result in a ban. Usernames containing racist, or inappropriate slurs will be banned without warning

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.

That's all the rules!

Civic Links

Register To Vote

Citizenship Resource Center

Congressional Awards Program

Federal Government Agencies

Library of Congress Legislative Resources

The White House

U.S. House of Representatives

U.S. Senate

Partnered Communities:

News

World News

Business News

Political Discussion

Ask Politics

Military News

Global Politics

Moderate Politics

Progressive Politics

UK Politics

Canadian Politics

Australian Politics

New Zealand Politics

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS