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Is this a separate incursion or an extension of the Kursk invasion? Belgorod is a separate region, correct?
Belgorod is the oblast next to Kursk. Its both a separate region and an extension of the Kursk incursion. Part of what I'm reading in other places is that the stunning success of this operation can partially be accounted to Russian partisans treating the Ukrainian forces as liberators and sabotaging Russia's ability to reinforce in the region. By expanding the zone of control, Ukraine is solidifying their territorial gains. I don't know what comes next, but it seems like almost no one, not even many Ukrainians, thought they had this in them. Russia has been caught severely with its pants down and Ukraine has shown that they have much more fight in them left than many realized.
Their situation remains precarious as an entire nation, but it seems that Russia's situation was far more precarious than anyone outside of Ukraine's inner circle realized. Further, this is a true win for Ukrainian intelligence. No one knew. The only people who did were local Russian military intelligence people who either didn't properly report what they were seeing, or weren't listened to. It seems clear from this that Ukraine's intelligence mechanisms are accurate and devoid of leaks. I don't know that any other nation can truly say that. That to me is the most stunning part of this.
Thanks for the comments. By separate incursion, I mean - are they entering Russia through a completely separate area of the Russian border? It is it an offshoot of the other forces, entering Belgorod through Russian territory.
This really does change the strategy of the whole war, especially if they can hold it even expand their the gains.
I would also imagine other countries bordering Russia might take notice.
It would be kinda funny if Finland started moving stuff toward the border near St. Petersburg, just to troll putin / make him waste resources in kind.
Russia has left the border with Finland undefended for at least a year...
Correct, the Russian border has become quite porous.
So is this a separate incursion?
Yes, but the scale is unknown.
Wow. This is a very interesting development. Thanks for the update! Discussions about Ukraine is one thing I miss from Reddit.
Yeah I went to check out the old Ukrainian Conflict subreddit the day I saw the Kursk counter invasion news drop in this community since there wasn’t much discussion here. There were more comments there, but absolutely nothing of substance.