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submitted 7 months ago by pc486@reddthat.com to c/fuckcars@lemmy.world

Here's some uplifting news: the people of LA have voted and are aggressively backing safer streets. Change, even if slow, can happen.

"Under HLA, not only is the city obligated to install elements of its Mobility Plan, which can include bike lanes, bollards, daylighting, and wider sidewalks, but it must also track progress for the public online. It if [sic] fails to do so, residents can sue."

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[-] CosmoNova@lemmy.world 28 points 7 months ago

I was under the assumption that’s what they always wanted. The question is: Will L.A.‘s politicians listen this time and not find the most convoluted way to do everything but acting on what people want yet again?

[-] graymess@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

HLA lets us sue if they don't, so that's something.

[-] pc486@reddthat.com 2 points 7 months ago

I'm hopeful. This measure forces visibility of progress and allows any regular citizen to sue the city if they try to weasel out. I can't imagine a city politician taking a position of "we're going to fight this ridiculous lawsuit about not installing a wider sidewalk for as long as it takes." That's a real bad look, especially given this measure passed 65% for, 35% against. It would be political suicide.

[-] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 9 points 7 months ago

Ha! I just went to LA a couple months ago for an emergency and commented how easy it was to navigate without all the BS obstructions and distractions. Just simple, intelligent roads with predictable rules for all; everyone making do. Gosh it was like setting a game on easy mode where reason made sense again.

Then I got home to new "no right on red" signs, bike boxes nooooobody will frigging use in this town ' cuz they can't be bothered to stop, and an email from city planning telling me the dangerous changes they made are not their liability so it doesn't concern them. Don't bother down voting, I know where I posted this.

Welcome to maximum stress, chaos, and pitting your citizens against each other LA. Tips hat to you

[-] art@lemmy.world 49 points 7 months ago

Sorry to hear that less people dying is so inconvenient for you. Must be really hard.

[-] Maven@lemmy.world 47 points 7 months ago

Allowing a right turn on red is actually a danger in multiple ways.

Just one source

[-] Ebby@lemmy.ssba.com 4 points 7 months ago

Meh, I'm over that intersection anyways. I just take the residential street before it now. It's faster anyways, even if it is narrower.

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 41 points 7 months ago

You are what people pejoratively call "car brain".

[-] waz@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

I realize this is focusing on only one part of your comment, but "no right on red" I would argue is less confusing and a lower cognitive load than the alternative. You don't need to pay attention to anything other than a traffic light. You don't have to check for pedestrians, or bikes or cars or anything. It should be really hard to mess up.

What am I missing? What part is adding stress and chaos?

[-] Yots92@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

I have read that the people of Los Angeles say "yes" to very controversial decisions too, such as "free dope" to addicted people...

[-] Grass@sh.itjust.works 10 points 7 months ago

You know.... So they don't stab you for drug money or something...

[-] Yots92@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

What are police forces for then lol

[-] randomname01@feddit.nl 4 points 7 months ago

They mainly make sure spousal abuse statistics stay high

[-] noobnarski@feddit.de 3 points 7 months ago

To shoot you when you approach them after you got robbed by an addict. Because you have something in your hand that might be a gun.

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