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The vice-president of the court said that the party's political concept was incompatible with the German constitution's guarantee of human dignity.

Germany's highest court ruled on Tuesday that a small far-right party will not receive state funding for the next six years because its values and goals are unconstitutional and aimed at destroying the country's democracy.

In its judgment, the Federal Constitutional Court wrote that Die Heimat, formerly known as the National Democratic Party of Germany (NPD), "continues to disregard the free democratic basic order and, according to its goals and the behaviour of its members and supporters, is aimed at its elimination".

Presiding Judge Doris Koenig, the court's vice-president, explained the unanimous decision by saying that the party's political concept was incompatible with the guarantee of human dignity as defined in Germany's constitution, the Basic Law.

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[-] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Props to OP for making it clear in the post body, but the headline made it a bit more clickbate-y than it should have been. That article is about NPD, a very minor and actual neo nazi party. The anti-right protests that have been happening recently, instead, are about the AfD (alternative for Germany) party, which is set to gain a sizeable 23% of the votes for its far right coalition ID during the next European elections.

In other words yeah they are cutting funds from a far right party, but not from the far right party.

[-] DdCno1@kbin.social 20 points 10 months ago

AfD is an actual Neo-Nazi party as well. Their positions, goals, external and internal communication and even the wording they are using are indistinguishable from the NPD. German article on this topic:

https://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/afd-und-npd-so-aehnlich-sind-sich-die-parteien-in-sprache-ideologie-und-strategie-a-213568aa-a310-4782-946d-b9190f596f29

[-] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I haven't actually bothered looking at what AfD stands for (obvious disclaimer: I'm not German, I'm allowed to not care lol)

Just wanted to make it even more clear that this party wasn't the one causing the people in Berlin to storm the streets.

EDIT: I tried opening your article, and aside from the language barrier, which my browser extensions were able to overcome, it looks paywalled.

[-] DdCno1@kbin.social 3 points 9 months ago

Use Bypass Paywalls Clean to read the article.

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

I wish we could implement this in the US.

[-] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 4 points 10 months ago

No you don't. As bad as the American Republican party might be, they are not THIS bad.

From the NPD wikipedia page:

The Homeland is a neo-Nazi political party. [...]

The Homeland argues that NATO fails to represent the interests and needs of European people. The party considers the European Union to be little more than a reorganization of a Soviet-style government of Europe along financial lines. [...] The Homeland is strongly anti-Zionist, frequently criticizing the policies and activities of Israel.

The Homeland's platform asserts that Germany is larger than the present-day Federal Republic, and calls for a return of German territory lost after World War II, a foreign policy position abandoned by the German government in 1990.

[-] Theprogressivist@lemmy.world 36 points 10 months ago

Sounds exactly like the GOP. They want to pull the US out of NATO and want a return to the confederacy.

[-] Jaysyn@kbin.social 8 points 10 months ago

That's because they are funded by the same people.

[-] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 1 points 9 months ago

Can you elaborate on the "the GOP wants to return to the confederacy" thing? As you can probably tell I am not American, don't really follow your politics that much. Referencing anything in particular? I don't think I've ever heard of it.

Anyway, I feel like you have kinda overlooked my last point, where NPD is openly claiming areas in the borders of their neighbours. That's a pretty big deal, coming from a neo nazi party in the country that started WW2. And I don't recall reading about the GOP having similar policies.

[-] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They were referencing the US far-right's desire to recreate the failed slave state known as the Confederate States of America (CSA, aka The Confederacy). The CSA was formed in Feb 8, 1861 by seven Southern US states (Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Texas; South Carolina declared secession in Dec 1860; Arkansas, North Carolina, and Virginia joined by mid-1861, making the number eleven) when their goverments declared secession from the US, an action not recogized as legal under US law.

The principal reasons given by the states that found it important enough to document were the preservation and expansion of chattle slavery of those of African descent and enforcing white supremacy (this is the "states' right" that US conservatives refer to). The white supremacists were concerned about the potential abolition of slavery, the ban of slavery in new provinces, and freestates' refusal to enforce runaway slave laws aft civil war when Confederates attacked Fort Sumter, a US Army fort off the coast of South Carolina.

The CSA was marred not just by a particularly brutal form of slavery but also great wealth disparity and a severe lack of industrial capacity, due to its agrarian, plantation-slavery economy, run by its slaveowner aristocracy. Their military thus lacked domestic arms manufacturing capacity. This resulted in having to rely upon imported arms that quickly saw problems due to naval blockades, and suffered from a lack of professional soldiers and officers.

On March 18th, 1865, the CSA's government adjourned for the last time, dissolving officially by its president on May 5th of that year, 5 days before his capture while attempting to in womens' clothing (actually a thing - TIL). The span of its existence (4.25 years) is shorter than the airing of the creepy American child beauty pageant reality TV show "Toddlers & Tiaras" (4.8 years).

tl;dr - "The Confederacy" is referring to the failed slave state that fucked around and found out.

[-] Nerd02@lemmy.basedcount.com 2 points 9 months ago

Hi, thanks for the lenghty explanation. Sorry, I should have been clearer in my reply, I am aware of what the confederacy was, historically. My concern was more about what they meant when saying that the GOP might have wanted to return to that. I do know a thing or two about American politics, but I just don't recall ever hearing about them having similar stances.

Make no mistake, I am not defending the Republicans here. From my point of view they are definitely the worst of the two parties and some of their policies are downright evil (including but not limited to: privatizations, opposing welfare, opposing national healthcare, opposing public transport...).

My entire point in this was just saying: I don't think they are as bad, evil, dangerous or even criminal as the neo nazi parties currently running in Germany, in particular the topic of discussion, NPD.

[-] doggle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 months ago

Except for the anti-zionist thing (the American GOP is seemingly Zionist and antisemitic at the same time) and the German-specific stuff, this sounds a lot like Republicans.

[-] baronvonj@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

the American GOP is seemingly Zionist and antisemitic at the same time

They're Evangelic pro-Rapture Zionists, not pro-Jewish security Zionists.

[-] Burn_The_Right@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Bout damn time! May the world follow Germany's lead in pushing back against deadly conservatism.

[-] autotldr@lemmings.world 2 points 10 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


Germany's highest court ruled on Tuesday that a small far-right party will not receive state funding for the next six years because its values and goals are unconstitutional and aimed at destroying the country's democracy.

Presiding Judge Doris Koenig, the court's vice-president, explained the unanimous decision by saying that the party's political concept was incompatible with the guarantee of human dignity as defined in Germany's constitution, the Basic Law.

Die Heimat adheres to an ethnic concept of German identity and the idea that the country's "national community" is based on descent, the judge said.

"The propagation of the ethnically defined community leads to a disregard for foreigners, migrants and minorities that violates human dignity and the principle of elementary legal equality," Koenig said.

In its eastern German strongholds of Brandenburg, Saxony and Thuringia, polls show the AfD as the most popular party ahead of elections this autumn.

The demonstrations followed last week's news that some members of the far-right party had attended a secret meeting in November last year where they allegedly discussed plans for mass deportations of immigrants and Germans with a migrant background.


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