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Russia must be very pleased with it's Republican investments ...
I still think about the July 4th Moscow trip they took. If democrats did that with China it would be totally over for them as a party but corruption is priced in for the GOP.
Even more so that is was probably a really cheap investments Republican would exchange what left of their moral and ethic for a half eaten apple and a glass of dirty water.
In fairness, that's all their morals and ethics are good for.
Take the money from Israel
You antisemite Nazi!
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Correct me if I am wrong, but didn't President Biden get lend-lease authority at some point previous to this, and did he not fail to spend or use that authority as much as he could have?
You're not wrong, though the act is expired now. So they would have to repass it if they want to give aid to Ukraine that way. Honestly though that act was passed more symbolically than practically for its WWII connotations. Saddling Ukraine with even more debt through lend lease isn't a great way to support them long term. If all we had done was loans up to this point they'd have had to add nearly the current gdp of their countries worth to make up for the aid they received so far. They shouldn't have to burden all the monetary costs in addition to their loss of life and their half destroyed country while they're checking Putin's imperialist ambitions, and doing a service for especially Europe but the whole world.
Just like the US has been trying to hurt the Russian economy, they're also trying to prop up the Ukrainian one. Imposing large debts on their economy will not help, they're struggling with the funds to repair critical infrastructure deliberately destroyed by Russia and keep their military running, struggling to keep lines of credit open for more basic things. It's hard to keep your economy running and collect taxes with wide spread bombing of civilian areas across the country (with much of your former economic powerhouse areas destroyed or occupied by Russia). The original lend lease was more of a pretext than anything anyways (look I'm not aiding you, I'm not in the war, it's just a loan), and in the end much of that debt was forgiven so wasn't even really a loan, and we ended up giving a ton more aid on top of it, besides the obvious like the US eventually entering the war, this included the Marshall plan, etc.
All of this is to say, sure re pass lend lease for the flexibility too, but right now there's no way for the US to provide additional monetary aid unless congress acts.
Lend/lease never hits the books. Most of the lend/lease of WWII was forgiven.
Yeah that's what I'm saying, it's a pretext. Initially we wanted to pretend we weren't giving aid to the allies in WWII. Though it'd be inaccurate to say it never hits the books. Portions of it were repaid after WWII. You'd still need another act to forgive that debt though, as far as I'm aware there's no provision in the law for the president to unilaterally forgive the debt. So you'd have to ask congress, and be right back where you started. And why go through all the hoops? Just allot the aid instead of hurting Ukraine's credit for no reason for a while if you're planning on eventually forgiving it. It'd still be nice to have the option to kind of paper over any funding gaps like what's happening right now, shame that now is when it's expired otherwise they could be using it as a stop gap. But I suspect that's why the Republicans chose now.
You are wrong.
Go ahead correct me, and stop being silly.
no
This is the best summary I could come up with:
The White House on Monday sounded the alarm that it will run out of money to provide weapons to Ukraine in its fight against Russia without congressional action by the end of the year.
In a letter to congressional leaders, Office of Management and Budget director Shalanda Young wrote the government is “out of money—and nearly out of time” to continue giving aid to Ukraine.
The White House pleaded with Congress to act on a supplemental funding request first submitted in October, arguing it is of critical importance to U.S. national security.
Young wrote that roughly 60 percent of the money approved to support Ukraine has bolstered the United States’ defense industrial base, which has benefitted domestic companies as America manufactures additional weaponry for the Ukrainians and fills its own stockpiles.
The White House in late October sent an emergency funding request of roughly $100 billion to Congress seeking additional money for border security, allies in the Indo-Pacific and for Israel and Ukraine in their respective conflicts against Hamas and Russia.
The White House has for weeks pleaded with Congress to take action on its supplemental request, arguing that a failure to do so would jeopardize Ukraine’s progress in its fight against Russia, particularly heading into the difficult winter months.
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good. stop spending billions on proxy wars.
They'll want to keep it going as long as possible for the benefit of arms manufacturers who spend millions on lobbying and bipartisan campaign contributions. Apparently Russia was willing to end the war in Spring 2022 if Ukraine agreed not to seek NATO membership, but the US pressured them in to declining the offer to negotiate.
Russia can end the war whenever they want, all they need to do is fuck off
Big brain geopolitics right there, "bad actors should just fuck off." Times this has been effective in accomplishing anything: 0
Ok but they could tho. Ukraine doesn't owe them shit
Ukraine already doesn't owe them all the lives being lost so it's a matter of when lives become more important than geopolitics. That's a real calculation too, there's rationality behind why it's still worth losing lives, but as time passes the balance of that equation changes. Eventually you lose too much of your workforce and the economic suffering outweighs the geopolitical interests. At some point Ukraine or Russia will meet that point and the war will end. This type of regional war is ultimately senseless,
https://www.kyivpost.com/post/24645
...as if Ukrainians don't have the capacity to think for themselves. Putin/Russian wouldn't give actual security guarantees on their end. It would also have required changing the constitution. Also after seeing the horrors of the war, they weren't ready to just roll over.
They weren't ready to roll over but Russia is ready to continue the atrocities. The war isn't exceptional in a historical sense and these types of conflicts almost always end in negotiations after one of the belligerents no longer sees it worthwhile to devote resources to drain the resources of the other. Not a good thing but we shouldn't make exceptions as if this will be a big happy ending that western involved nations are building towards. That never really happens it's just the mythology of WW2's "good war" infects the public dialogue around war.
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