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Wine being great
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Running libreoffice for windows on wine
Realer shit
Why do you need Ms office at all these days when you have libreoffice
Because all your colleagues and collaborators use it because it comes free with the company...
Because it's not familiar. Onlyoffice looks like M$ Word 2019 though, so I'd much rather recommend that to ex-word users.
Imagine paying 80 bucks to run office.
- Word? Markdown/((Xe)La)TeX!
- PowerPoint? Beamer!
- Excel? Well, fuck this; any proper programming language does the job waaaaay better;
- Whatever their crappy attempt at db-s was called? Literally any non-crappy dbms.
LaTeX is shit at this point. Check out https://github.com/typst/typst. I cannot go back to the awful syntax in a powerful LuaLaTeX.
Hm, looks somewhat less painful to type. Otherwise, needs further investigation; tnx!
It's in the beta, but actively being developed. You can do a lot of stuff already, but a lot of stuff is either not implemented or janky. Overall I can cope with that. If you want to add something, just know how to write in Rust.
Do you pronounce it "typist", "typeset" or "type es ti"?
Why not just pronounce it "typst"? (like "types" with a "t" at the end)
Yay English got its second person singular conjugation back :)
I type Thou typst She typeth
Typ as in type and st as in street. One syllable with many consonants.
It's still new and I didn't ask authors this question and doc doesn't talk about it either.
Excel, not true. I mean libreoffice calc just works for a lot but not for easy basic graphs. And it does not do the job better at graphically ebabling users to do data analysis
Python and matplotlib aren't hard... Plus you get pandas, numpy, and so on. Alternatively, R studio does such stuff ootb, as far as I remember
Idk, excel always seemed unnecessarily limiting and complicated to me compared to proper programming languages. Although that may be because I was taught cpp before this crap.
Wait what's the problem with graphs? I use it for basic graphs all the time.
Weird. For me some graphs didnt work and manipulating variables was veeery unintuitive (like "this is x" "this is y" "this is the scale"
My use cases were pretty simple so maybe you ran into issues with using more features idk.
The (libre) office suite is geared towards business and school stuff, they are far from perfect but does 90% of what people need.
Word/LibreOffice Writer
Have their uses, just keep the document below like 50 pages.
LaTeX is great for academic papers and when you need the document to look crisp!
And you are right about Markdown it's great for many documents.
Excel/Calc
Spreadsheets are great for data entry and some calculations especially financial stuff. You can't do that as easily inside a source file.
PowerPoint, you are probably right about beamer?
Access
Utter garbage "database" maybe if you need something to keep your record collection? If you know the basics of relational databases and a bit of SQL any proper DB is soo much better.
So, regarding md & beamer: I'm kinda into that "less is more" mindset when it comes to every day -ish writing. Like yeah, you can spend a few hrs formatting the info a certain way, but if that's not a typography thingy - who's really going to care how the stuff is aligned or whether it's divided into 100500 columns?
Md has just enough features to structure the text, and when you need to share, you just compile the doc into PDF which is at least supposed to look the same everywhere. Basically the same for beamer, although you can shove animations in there (right, cause why tf shouldn't PDF support animations after all)
Rant over 🤣
Beamer has a very high steep learning curve, especially when you just want a few slides to show preliminary results. In PowerPoint you literally drag the image, resize, and that's it.
Also I feel that beamer pushes the user towards the "bullet point" presentation, which sometimes can be very boring.
For documents, I love latex, but I actually prefer LibreOffice or onlyoffice when it comes to presentations.
What's wrong with just using Libre Office?
Never seems to get Office documents dodgy formatting right. OnlyOffice seems to do a much better job of replicating MS Office.
Try OnlyOffice
Onenote :(
Honest question: does Crossover actually increases compatibility over raw Wine or PlayOnLinux?
For things like Office yes I still wasn't able to aceess VBA properly not that it's relvant ot me anymore
Thanks!
I would like to know this as well.
run the web version of ms office inside a windows virtual machine, very efficient.
Is this really what excites people?
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