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[-] Silverseren@kbin.social 24 points 1 year ago

Considering around half the population in Gaza is children and the death toll from Israel is approaching 10,000 (might even be past it at this point, since it's hard to determine deaths in Gaza City from all the tanks), the amount of children murdered statistically has to be way higher than 3,000.

[-] TGhost@lemmy.ml 15 points 1 year ago

Who said it ? Hamas ? So its OK...

I cannot stand with that anymore, how can we have history at school and then live in a world like this. How westerners can be so blind ? Wtf with us the occident. When we will stop to spread our shit.

How is it possible ?

Fuck the capital, fuck religions, fuck belligerents,

They just wanted to live in dignity. And for us, living in this propaganda against the humanity and BTW making the world more bipolar than it is actually, make us wanna die.

Fuck all of this,

/rant

Ty for the share,

[-] kent2441@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

If Hamas said it, we should hope they’re lying like they lied about the hospital

[-] ggnoredo@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago
[-] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago
[-] CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago

Israel claim Hamas lied, Al Jazeera proved Hamas didn't

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

US, Canada, France also all said Hamas lied. I don't care what Quarry propaganda said.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

And Gazans are living in a paradise with unicorns around them and no kid is being injured nor killed, and all BBC and other western websites are leftist who spread Hamas propaganda of Photoshopped pictures. Right, right?

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Are you trying to deny that Hamas uses photoshopped images as well as movie scenes in their propaganda?

[-] filister@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I am reading websites like BBC, which have a more stringent policy of what to publish.

But I think the bigger question is are you denying that Israel is doing atrocities and causing immense suffering to innocent Palestinians, while those are stuck without electricity, water, food or fuel? With nowhere to go and no area that is considered safe from bombardment!

Actually they said it was PIJ not Hamas.

[-] DoomBot5@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Yeah, they said Hamas lied about Israel striking the hospital and 500 being dead. Hamas is still claiming it was Israel and not PIJ hitting a parking lot.

[-] Gormadt 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If you're referring to the number of deaths from that explosion, then that was a mistranslation that media outlets copied and ran with.

Source

TLDR: A more accurate translation of the original statement would have been victims or casualties. Not deaths. But when many news outlets were asked the source of the claim (as they had provided none in their articles) none responded with a source. But the source was later found and translated properly.

Edit: This is not support for Hamas, they can fuck off. It's just pointing out some very sloppy and irresponsible journalism in regards to that specific instance.

[-] kent2441@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Was it also a misquote when Hamas said it was an Israeli airstrike?

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago

There are still people who think it was an Israeli strike. Israel's contradictory evidence, as well as the direction of the rocket, make it much more likely to be Israel.

[-] kent2441@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

There are still people who think the earth is flat, so what?

[-] NoneOfUrBusiness@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

No I'm talking like people that matter. I saw that one analysis a while back that states it's unlikely the rocket came from inside Gaza.

[-] kent2441@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What you saw was a lingering desperate attempt to show that Hamas and PIJ are good guys.

[-] MrEff@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Death toll as of yesterday was reported around 8,000. The US/coalition 20-year war in Afghanistan was (rounding UP) 50,000. That puts it at an average of 2,500 civilian deaths per year. Even THAT number was high enough for people to call for war crimes investigations. Now Israel has reached over 3x the yearly average in only 3 weeks. On track to pass 10,000 by the one month mark, too. I'm not saying that Isreal doesn't have the right to defend its self, or even defense through offense, but there is a point that we need to agree is too far; and I think we are a bit past it.

[-] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Dang, didn't believe that number of 8000 deaths. But Al Jazeera is reporting that that's what the Gaza Health Ministry says.

https://www.aljazeera.com/gallery/2023/10/29/palestinians-urged-to-evacuate-gaza-city-as-airstrikes-hit-south-gaza

this post was submitted on 30 Oct 2023
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