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submitted 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) by Adequately_Insane@lemmy.world to c/technology@lemmy.world

If you think about it, there are already tools that can do pretty convincing face swaps with few clicks and just from one low res photo at whatever angle. Long are gone the times you had to train the models for hours and had to have few hundred photos to just get "okay" fake. Once deepfake video creation becomes this simple, it is game over for porn industry.

Since why would anyone go into porn industry, when they can just use a tool to create lewd content of themselves if they are so inclined to make a living that way? And then it goes the other way around, why would anyone buy it if they can just homebrew it for free.

All in all, it is a good thing. Less exploitation of actual human beings and more power to "consumers". But then there have to be rigid laws against actuall AI porn dissemination, it should be illegal for anything else than private use unless actual consent to be used as source can be proven.

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[-] art@lemmy.world 81 points 11 months ago

Sounds like you don't understand the sex work industry.

  • People already get porn for free. Nothing new here.
  • Some things you can't synthesize. Like experiences.
  • For a lot of people it's not just about the sex but the personalities of the models.
  • Some make the content because they like to make the content.
[-] Adequately_Insane@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Personalities of models. Lol, that is some niche market my dude. Never watched a porn a said to myself "wow, I really like her personality". It's just smut to beat my meat to, nothing more, nothing less.

In the dystopian future I propose, you can make any kind of porn and have anyone star in it. Your hot neighbor? Gotcha! The pornstar you masturbated to 20 years ago when she was young in her glory days and now is old and saggy after 5 kids? Gotcha! Rapsutin?...errr...gotcha!

You can even dream perfect personality for that pornstar if that is your thing. There is nothing that cannot be synthesized anymore. You can even dream up years of her backstory and have her post daily updates live aka "onlyfans".

Sure, authencity will be left to slowly bleed out on pavement, but majority of people will step over it on their way to perfect synthesized reality they always wanted

It may all sound doom and gloom, but that future is fast approcahing by mile steps and it will be here sooner than later and lot sooner than many people realize or even want to admit it, because to lot of people that kind of future is unimaginable and scary as fuck. But you cannot stop the progress, that train already left the station.

There are basically two camps: Ones that fear the synthetization and digitalization of our lives will happen and then the other that embraces it.

[-] GeekyNerdyNerd@sh.itjust.works 43 points 11 months ago

Personalities of models. Lol, that is some niche market my dude. Never watched a porn a said to myself "wow, I really like her personality". It's just smut to beat my meat to, nothing more, nothing less.

That's the thing though paid porn is niche to begin with, and for people that pay for it there are three groups. Group 1 that cares about production quality, group 2 that has some hyper-niche fetish, and group 3 that wants more than just something to best their meat to, they are looking for a sexual parasocial relationship.

Your future of ai porn of anything and everyone could only address group 2. Group 1 will take quite some time before they are satisfied with generated porn (it would need to be indistinguishable from real 4k porn with high production values.) and group 3 would require the computational power to render it in real time with both a believable personality and high quality graphics.

[-] Harvey656@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

...wut?

Why do you care?

[-] r_a_trip@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

There will always be a difference between generated content and "the real deal". Even if both kinds of content feed into a fantasy, the human made kind has the allure of potentially (however slim the chance is) being with the actors in real life. That will never happen with generated characters.

In the back of the mind there will always be the knowledge that generated content is synthetic and imagining what it would feel like being with an actor is futile, as they don't exist. Which will cement human made content for the group who cares about such things.

That is the Achilles heel of AI. Pinocchio will never be a real boy.

[-] catreadingabook@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago

I think it has to be somewhere in between. This 'real deal' theory doesn't explain the popularity of hentai, but at the same time, OnlyFans shows that some people reaaallly care about the personal element. I would bet niche kinks (especially those 'illegal to make but legal to watch'?) will lean heavily on AI for content, but the rest will probably change based on our culture's attitude toward AI in general.

[-] just_another_person@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

Never thought I'd be reading an honest academic discussion about AI's role in the porn industry. Good job, Lemmy. 👍

[-] cabron_offsets@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

There’s zero chance that people will stop taking photos and videos of themselves fucking.

[-] TheBananaKing@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

It's all so incredibly bad, though. Like a cross between shitty anime and shovelware book covers made from shopped-together stock photos. Shiny and cartoony and pointless.

Beyond which, it's about as engaging as talking to a spambot.

There's a reason things like celebrity and onlyfans-stars porn are popular: named boobs > random boobs. And generated boobs are so far below the threshold they don't even count; they may as well be on a blow-up doll.

When people look at porn, they aren't looking at body parts or sexual acts. They're looking at someone, who is displaying body parts or sexual acts.

That's why camgirls remain so popular despite the shitty quality, and the availability of 4k 60hz professionally-lit stuff filmed by professionals. It's the fact of having a person on the other end, with all the psychosocial connotations attached, that gives it value to a very large extent.

Even pre-recorded, it's still a performance, there's still the someone-did-this aspect of it.

You're going to have to wait for AI sentience to recapture that.

Until then, it'll remain niche, like furry stuff.

[-] Decoy321@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

How long until the robot stripclubs?

[-] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

It will make Onlyfans have a whole new meaning.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

The first use of ai in porn will be to further exploit their customers. Gentlemen, when you’re texting your favorite model, it’s no longer some guy in a third world sweatshop, but an AI you’re having your “genuine” conversation with …. This probably already started.

Second use will be the stories/articles, and also may have started already. Will it replace all the authors and their kinky imaginations? Most stories are pretty formulaic anyway so that could be a low bar, but losing the true authors would be a shame.

Then, yes, there’s the video. I imagine it’s like a video game: you ask Amber to do whatever for you and the computer generates that …. Probably with a selection of celebrity look-alikes. It could even save the internet by generating entirely in your laptop so the only traffic is the data collection upload and malware download. Don’t forget to wear your personal protection, and you may want to hesitate before you turn on your cam to “get in the video “

[-] AzureRT@reddthat.com 1 points 11 months ago

Maybe for real life porn, but so far the AI hentai is still lacking (good) and there's the occasional deformity

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