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Microsoft wants to move Windows fully to the cloud
(www.theverge.com)
So if I don't have an internet connection, I can't even boot my computer?
Big "you'll own nothing and be happy" energy.
So if I don’t have an internet connection, I can’t even boot my computer?
While I personally hate this Idea as well, I have to admit, that there could certainly be rather significant upsides for users.
Cheap Chromebook-like Laptops, but can run Video Games, Video Encodings, Finite Element Analyses, Computational Fluid Dynamics etc no problem. "Your" PC can be accessible from your phone in a Pinch.
You open a weird Link and got a Virus? No problem, just roll back your "PC"
Your home floods/burns down? All the images from your children are still safe.
Never being bothered by needing a hardware upgrade.
Being able to run video games or other hardware intensive process would either require pricey hardware or they'd be streamed from a cloud service (which comes with a whole other bundle of issues to consider) as that computational power has to come from something physical somewhere. Offloading your OS to the cloud wouldn't affect that. PCs can already be accessed by phone if you have the right set up (dedicated IP hosting and a VPN) As for saving data in case of emergencies, we already have cloud based storage solutions that wouldn't be impacted by cloud based OS.
There is 0 reason to use a cloud based OS other than making sure people are tied to your service for the life of their computer. This feels like a solution to a problem no one has.
I believe the poster above you was referring to full cloud-hosted Virtual Desktops, not just cloud-hosted OS. The former would make a lot more sense and would indeed allow for need-based scaling of resources without any expensive local hardware. I think this is the future of the common man's computing experience - a nice monitor that also functions as a thin client to access web-hosted virtual desktops.
It’s the Adobe model though. It’ll seem attractive to start with compared to upgrading every few years, but soon enough you’ll be paying out the nose for it.
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Can’t afford your monthly windows cloud bill? Lose access to all your data, important files, pictures of your kids, music library.
Fuck everything about that with a rusty spoon.
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I hope that gaming on linux then is as seamless as it is on windows today. Because the rest of the things that I do with my PC are already equal, but gaming is the big reason I still use windows.
Steam has that on lock right now. No, it's not perfect, but for most games it's pretty much seamless.
There are some cases where Windows is better - mod management tools are better on Windows, for instance. Anything you have outside of Steam might need another app like Lutris (or Heroic, which is great for GOG btw). And that's not mentioning malware under the guise of "anti-cheat".
Gaming Linux has been seamless for 2-3 years now. I stopped checking Linux compayibility scores around 2021 because I expect everything to work now.
I've been trying out linux gaming annually. With the steam deck out it proton has become super good. I think my gaming pc is finally going to stay on linux this time around.
Don't know what games you are playing, but I game myself quite heavily and doing it exclusively on Linux. Steam proton has changed a lot of things for Linux gaming. Only issues are with anti cheat. So if you are playing single player you are good to go. Multiplayer can be difficult, it depends on the game. I have 200 hours on Apex in Linux.
I switched back to windows for gaming because NVidia drivers are terrible and I had so many issues with many game that no amount of googling and debugging could fix. Linux also doesn't have HDR support yet (it's in the work though)
I really prefer Linux, but I had so many non trivial issues. I know this isn't the same experience for everyone, but considering I do gaming 95% of the time on my personal PC, I got fed up of hitting a wall for the games I wanted to play.
I will buy an AMD gpu when I will switch so that hopefully the open sourced drivers will fix my issues.
I still daily drive linux for work though.
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Yeah, anti-cheat/multiplayer is the biggest hurdle to go for linux gaming, as well as VR. They're the two things that continue to hold my kids in Windows, for now. I hope that someday they're remedied and I can move them into Linux systems for gaming, but for now, it's just not realistic, sadly.
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bet itll suddenly become subscription based too
Of course, how else will they pay for storage of your data? This part already started with OneDrive. Now you'll buy a new laptop for $100, the thinnest laptop you've ever seen, it will just come with a 128GB m.1 drive soldered to the board, and you'll run (and save) everything from Microsoft's servers.
That’s exactly the argument they and their bootlickers will use too. “we need it to run infrastructure!!!” they wouldnt have to run infrastructure if they didnt gut features from their products. Like the whole Toyota remote start subscription crap. “They need the subscription to run the servers so you can start your car from anywhere” but you can no longer use classic radio remote start which doesn’t require servers
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2023, the year that big tech shot it self in the face, continues.
Microsoft wants to move me fully to the Linux
Hard pass.
man, this might be thing that finally makes me switch to Linux. what an incredibly stupid, shitty, and greedy decision.
Windows 10 not allowing you to postpone updates when it launched pissed me off enough to switch to linux for around 4 years. I came back for games, but the GPU market (and age) has pushed me back to consoles or just not gaming.
Check again Linux gaming, Proton/Wine is surprisingly viable now and the vast majority of games run without any issue.
And if you want to know, if a game works, check protondb.com . It's for proton, so steam, and includes a steam deck section. And many games, that don't have a native linux version, come with great tips on how to make them run, if a game does not run with proton out of the box. Most just need a different proton version, which is three clicks to change in steam.
I've heard Linux gaming is pretty good now with a native steam client and a ton of games that run natively thanks to steamOS
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Do it! Linux is great, and not nearly as hard as its reputation suggests.
I already have to jump through a bunch of hoops to make Win 10/11 tolerable for personal use and preferences Things like ShutUp10 and dozens of manual tweaks, registry settings, policy changes, etc. The cloud version will probably constantly roll all of that back on me.
I really hate this silicon valley mindset that everyone has reliable broadband and worse, they know what the user wants/needs better than the user does.
Enshitificstion is ruthless.
Linux welcomes you :)
I like Linux a lot, I just have never mastered it. I plan on learning it better when I retire.
The writing was on the wall considering how much they're trying to push Bing into Windows 11. They want everything to be online and connected to their services, and it sucks.
Well, that should be interesting for businesses. I wonder how things will play out with HIPPA, GPDR, and such.
I don't get it, what's the benefit of this? Why would your average joe want to use a cloud instance instead of running Windows locally? How does Microsoft benefit from this?
Subscription service, infinite income without requiring innovation!
Microsoft gets to sell the sizzle, not the steak. They also have all your data since the OS is running on their computer, not yours. I guess this will make Windows a web app, working like NextCloud only on their machines.
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Redmond locking out consumers with shitty/metered Internet connections? What a wonderful idea.
Asking people to move to a subscription model will also be appreciated, I'm sure.
I knew they were planning on removing all local control at some point. By the end of this users will propably have to call ms support/something equivalent to that, to do anything that requires admin rights. I guess I should be thankful to microsoft for steeling my resolve to not use any windows beyond 10.
Wow great More always online drm in windows
Recently I moved to a Fedora distro called Nobara for my gaming rig. Microsoft has been working hard to force me out for years. When I have to make custom installers, and run scripts to control updates and telemetry, you're not being a very inviting OS.
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Is the "cloud" sustainable and scalable, in terms of energy and environmental demands?
No, no -- they want to get you to pay for your hardware, mandatory, big network transfers, and cloud resources. None of which are exactly powered by unicorn farts.
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I know I'm one of the few, but what I like about a PC is the Computing part, but also the Personal part. I can use this apparatus to automate some calculations in my own free time and display it however I want. Sure things can be outsourced. Sure I can use a cloud computer. But that's no fun for me.
I had notebooks where I turned off WiFi and all its services, I had a desktop PC where the network card fried. Those were the most stable and fastest Windows installations I ever had. Running for years on end without ever needing a reboot.
Windows Terminal-mode, it sure may have its place. But not for me.
I'm glad Linux gaming is getting better so I can make the switch if I have too. That being said I find Windows copilot intriguing. An AI assistant built into the operating system could be very useful. It's good to have options.
What consumer is asking for this?
I only use windows if i have to in my workplace and it always sucks. It's the only thing on my workflow that slows me down or drives me crazy
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