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Why YSK: I've been seeing an increasing number of phone photos shared online in 9:16, 9:21 or similarly tall aspect ratios, often with parts of the subject cut off. I've asked a few people why they cropped their images that way, and none of them knew they were cropped.

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[-] itadakimasu@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Buttttt I like 16:9 better

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Nobody is telling you what to like, just how your phone camera functions.

Now if we're doing photo critique, I might tell you a 9:16 portriat orientation photo of your cat with half its ear cropped out on the side but a whole bunch of the floor included in the foreground looks poorly composed, but cropping to 16:9 in some other context might exclude some uninteresting clutter and improve the photo.

[-] itadakimasu@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I get it and I've always known. I just prefer 16:9 photos because... Well, my screen and monitors, and TV are 16:9 so why not take photos that (by default) fill the screens?

Nothing more annoying than showing an album to friends over Chromecast on your TV and the photos don't fill the screen.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

If that's your preference, then that's what you should do.

I'm seeing an increasing diversity in screen aspect ratios lately though, so it might be worth considering whether that's the aspect ratio you want to use for a photo you'll care about longer than your current display devices. If you shoot it uncropped, you can always create cropped copies later.

WRT diversity, my current laptop is 16:9. My next one will probably be 3:2. My main external display is 16:10, and the secondary is 9:16. My phone is 19.5:9. Media rarely fills the screen for me.

[-] borebore@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

One issue with shooting uncropped is that the composition will most likely take advantage of the aspect ratio you are using and not necessarily crop well. Composing the shot in the aspect ratio that you intend to display it is actually a better technique unless you are very skilled and able to imagine how you're going to crop it in the future.

[-] BananaTrifleViolin@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

This is true, and good to know but with caveats. If you take the picture in 16:9 mode then yes you're only using part of the sensor (or likely the whole sensor but only part of the image is being processed and stored), but you would also be using your phone's display to properly frame and take the picture how you want to. A good picture is not just the technical aspect of using the sensor.

The outcome when someone crops a 4:3 image after taking it to make it 16:9 etc depends on how the orignal image was framed and how good the skills are of the person cropping it. You may get more information if you take the picture in 4:3 mode but then you may find it much harder to convert it to a format you like (for example, a format that would fill the display when viewed on a phone, a TV or a computer display) due to how you framed the original photo. I'd argue it's better to take the photo in the format you want to consume it in if you're using a phone. If you have an actual dedicated camera, then get a camera that works best in the format you want to use.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Sure, pre-cropping is a valid technique, best done intentionally.

get a camera that works best in the format you want to use

Dedicated cameras intended for photography (rather than videography) almost exclusively come in either 4:3 or 3:2. Video cameras occasionally use 16:9, or even weirder ratios.

[-] nrzzrn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago
[-] starman@programming.dev 2 points 1 year ago

You can check it yourself, just set ratio to 3:4, aim camera so some object will be in corner, and then change to 9:16/full, or whatever that's bigger. You will see that the object won't be visible. And sorry if I made a language mistake.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I'm finding it surprisingly hard to come up with a simple, concise citation for it. Looking up reviews of individual phones will let you find the exact dimensions of images they capture in various modes, but an exhaustive search would be tedious.

Looking at the product table for Samsung image sensors lists their resolutions, some of which, such as 4000x3000 are obviously 4:3 without picking up the calculator.

[-] I_Miss_Daniel@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

I'm lucky that my phone (Realme x3) defaults to the 16:9 but has a 64mp option that switches to 4:3 with one tap. Best of both worlds.

[-] TheEntity@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Why is it better than just using 4:3 at all times?

[-] Postcard64@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

This. I always make sure to check the maximum aspect ratio of cameras I use. No point in wasting pixels and field of view.

[-] borebore@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

I did some testing on my phone, Samsung S22, and it looks like 1:1 uses the most of the sensor. Any other aspect ratio was zooming in. This is particularly upsetting to me since I was using the "full" setting which cropped the most but I thought I was using the most of the sensor.

[-] bitfortress2@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Interesting. I have a Samsung A3 and both 1:1 and 'Full' crop, 3:4 is the one that doesn't. Luckily I think 3:4 is the default on the camera because I don't remember changing it.

[-] nothacking@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

Nice, my google pixel's default uses the most of the sensor.

Also, the digital zoom just crops as well, so take the shot and then crop it, rather than try to aim a tight zoom.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Also true, though phones with multiple cameras often combine the UI for that cropping with switching cameras rather than having an explicit control to select a camera.

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