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If you've ever avoided reapplying American sunscreen because it leaves a white cast or you still somehow still get burned anyway, you're not alone.

Some Americans are even bringing back sunscreen from abroad, lugging French bottles in their suitcases or paying extra fees to get Asian sunscreens shipped internationally.

But Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez just proposed a simpler solution: Why not just make US sunscreens better?

"US sunscreens are far behind the rest of the world," the representative said in a TikTok video with Charlotte Palermino, a licensed esthetician.

In the video, Ocasio-Cortez noted that she traveled to South Korea earlier this year, and noticed how "far advanced" the rest of the world is in terms of sunscreen formulas — and felt that Americans deserve better products, too.

Ocasio-Cortez — citing Insider's previous reporting — pointed out that the FDA regulates sunscreen as a drug rather than a cosmetic product, making the approval process for new UV filters much slower than in other countries.

In the video, Ocasio-Cortez said that there are things the US can do to change this FDA rule.

"Congress has not been very aware of this issue," she said, explaining the lack of action to fix it.

"Really, it's not too corny — please contact your member of Congress," she said. She noted that Congress members who sit on the Energy and Commerce committee in particular have some jurisdiction over the FDA.

When calling, she suggested asking members to push for looser FDA restrictions on sunscreen and more funding for public research.

Dr. Ellen Gendler, a dermatologist practicing in New York City, previously told Insider that US sunscreens are "very good" at blocking UVB rays — the ones that cause sunburn.

But, Gendler said, when it comes to protecting against UVA rays (which penetrate the skin more deeply and might be more harmful than UVB rays), our sunscreen formulas are lacking.

It's why you can still tan a lot when wearing sunscreen; plus, UVA rays are also linked to skin cancer.

Due to more relaxed regulations, countries like France, South Korea, the UK, Japan, and Australia all have more protective sunscreens that also boast smoother application.

Gendler's favorite international sunscreen is La Roche Posay's SPF 50 Anthelios UVMune 400, which uses Mexoryl 400, an advanced version of one of the best UVA-blocking ingredients. She stocks up on it every time she's in France because the American version of the same sunscreen can't use that ingredient.

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[-] LaGG_3@hexbear.net 22 points 1 year ago

When calling, she suggested asking members to push for looser FDA restrictions on sunscreen

Because loosening regulations results in better products ancap-good

[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Because loosening regulations results in better products

Regulatory Capture is unironically a thing, though. We've seen that in Schedule I drug policy as explicitly as anywhere. Everything from marijuana to magic mushrooms and now fentanyl has been flagged as "no medical use" because national media made it a scary subject for a few years. Now we're stuck with a host of suboptimal alternatives and a "tough it out" theory of pain and stress management that causes far more harm than any drug ever did.

Also, consider immigration policy, the pinnacle of draconian and cynically enforced state labor regulations. Or our regulations on marriage and sexual practices, used to persecute LGBT and inter-racial couples for decades.

Ratcheting up regulations forever isn't actually good. In many instances it is bad. At some level, you need to recognize when adding layers of bureaucracy serves a social engineering or market capture purpose rather than a health and safety purpose.

The theory that oversees generic drugs and face creams are significantly more hazardous than anything the US produces domestically... I don't know how well that's borne out.

[-] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 3 points 1 year ago

Now we're stuck with a host of suboptimal alternatives and a "tough it out" theory of pain and stress management that causes far more harm than any drug ever did.

the anti-worker cruelty is the point

Honestly though the FDA is way too strict on the things they need to be less strict on and not nearly strict enough where they should be. They should’ve approved some of these ingredients 15+ years ago.

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago

Don't forget "public funded research". Why invest when you can have the taxpayers fund your startup? Oh and you get to keep all the profits!

[-] zoe@hexbear.net 5 points 1 year ago

yay: sunscreen with alcohol: to be unskinned alive

[-] thelastknowngod@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

She's right. I'm an American living abroad and it's like night and day different. I HATE wearing sunscreen in America almost entirely because of texture alone. When living in Japan I never had an issue with it.

[-] Iraglassceiling@hexbear.net 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah I always stock up when I’m abroad. US sunscreen sucks.

However: Avobenzone and zinc both block UVA and are in Us sunscreen. Trader Joe’s has decent and cheap sunscreen with avobenzone.

[-] MoreLikeHazBeen@hexbear.net 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

https://www.ewg.org/sunscreen/report/does-europe-have-better-sunscreens/

[Only two FDA-approved ingredients offer strong protection against UVA rays: zinc oxide and avobenzone]

[According to the FDA’s 2021 proposed sunscreen order , only two active ingredients allowed in U.S. sunscreens, zinc oxide and titanium dioxide, are considered safe and effective]

FDA does something right and we're bitching about it. Just use zinc oxide sunscreen you babies

[-] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Just use zinc oxide sunscreen you babies

Literally turns you white like a clown 🤡

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

AyyyyyOC-big demand less regulations so my crap-it-all-ist friends can make more ching ching.

Nutragena makes a decent broad spectrum spray. Few others as well. They're just a bit tough to come by sometimes. Other times they get recalled for having cancer chems in them.

#FrauDSquAd showing who they are. Drop her so she can be the next sunblock 5000 spokeswoman.

Searching the youtube app for that sunblock 5000 clip is an endless list of "influencers" and shorts aka imported from TikTok. Talk about cancer. Just endless freaking shorts equivalent of click bait ads.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

sunblock 5000 spokeswoman.

Great gag. Sometimes I wonder if I would appreciate modern kino more if I wasn't comparing it to my nostalgia addled memories of the 80s.

I just watched the ED-209 fight from the first movie. There's something about 80s puppets and stop-motion compared to low-grade modern CGI.

I think part of it might be the jank of a lot of 80s special effects is copacetic with the goofy premises. Like ED-209 is clearly a stop-motion puppet, but robocop is kind of a silly movie so at least to me it doesn't detract at all.

[-] Frank@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

I mean I guess?

I don't know, I don't really care what she's doing anymore.

[-] privatized_sun@hexbear.net 6 points 1 year ago

Ocasio-Cortez noted that she traveled to South Korea earlier this year, and noticed how "far advanced" the rest of the world is in terms of sunscreen formulas

literally a bit that someone would write

Shit I need to get some imported sunscreen

[-] footfaults@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

We need that blue goop sunscreen from robocop

https://youtu.be/8oJzfmWO3CU

[-] Red_Eclipse@hexbear.net 2 points 1 year ago

Wait so that's why I've still been tanning a bit while wearing sunscreen? I just assumed a bit of tanning was unavoidable. I'll have to check for zinc oxide in the ingredients.

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
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