If rolling was a better system than just a slot machine, and they weren't gated behind such an annoying grind process of acquiring them, and I was able to actually acquire a riven for a specific weapon I wanted, I'd agree. As it stands, the riven pool is too diluted and it'll only get worse as more weapons are added, making getting a riven for a weapon you want even harder, further increasing their asinine prices.

The rolling system is awful as it's just a slot machine of mostly useless stats you don't need, and they take far too long to acquire. I have like over 200 riven slivers and I haven't even played that much since they added them to eximus' drop tables, and yet I can only spend so many a week to get random rivens before the game stops me.

To me the problem is that the weapons which should benefit from riven the most don’t get the much needed fix because the base stats are too low to benefit. Incarnons are definitely doing a better job at fixing the bad/non-meta (since not all non meta weapons are bad) weapons.

However they’re insanely fun on the overlooked weapons. My Basmu and Mutalist Cernos rivens bring me a lot of joy tbh.

Remove the extreme RNG gambling system of upgrading them, the extraordinarily high plat values put on each of them that created a toxic marketplace around them and I'm maybe going to agree with you. It's not a bad idea in itself, it's just terrible execution frankly that completely missed their original purpose (at least the one DE was talking about, dunno if they had other less obvious agendas and this is a success for them).

I am used to games with the grind for the .001% item and enjoy the chase

The reason I stuck with warframe in the first place is that it never had something like that, all weapons are equal and once you have them you have them for good. Warframes, weapons, mods all have fixed values, even kuva/tenet weapons have a simple upper limit of 60%. Rivens are the only exception and I think this is why I feel like they don't belong here.

Rivens are indeed fun but I personally don't enjoy them. I'd enjoy Rivens if it wasn't for the Disposition changes and the fact all new weapons start at 0.5, which makes a lot of stats, especially the highly desired ones, useless.

People still flock to them and I never understood why. Whenever a new weapon drops any Riven for it will go for a exorbitant amount of plat but it can't offer any tangible benefit with 0.5 Dispo.

As for the changes in Riven Disposition. As long as it's damage related, I don't mind a shift of 0.1 or 0.2 once in a few months, but if there's other stats involved, like fire rate or recoil, even the smallest Dispo change will make the weapon feel different. Changing the way a weapon feels and handles is big problem for me, even if the Dispo would actually get a buff.

For example, I have a Riven for Mausolon with -Recoil. I like the weapon but the recoil is giving me motion sickness and there's no way to reduce the recoil other than with a Riven. A decrease in Dispo means I get more recoil and that makes the weapon less usable for me.

Kuva, RNG, and their prices are still annoying at but I find these much more manageable then the Dispo system.

That's great for you and you are entitled to your opinion.

However, I would argue that we don't want a system to turn unviable into viable, we want good weapons. Viable is really easy, I can technically take any weapon into exterminate and eventually win, provided a subsumed dispensary for ammo. That's what viable is, and it sucks.

Rivens don't need to make the weapon meta, but they should at least bring it closer to the meta. Rivens don't do that well because meta weapons can use Rivens too and ultimately Rivens are multiplying the base stats and functions (or lack thereof) so even the wide differences between high and low disposition aren't enough to bridge that meta gap.

This post is cool and all but why is your name "Lubricated snake"