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Frankly, good.
There has yet to be any of these purported "child protection" scams that would do a damn thing for kids, and only invades the privacy of people that have zero reason to be investigated in the first place
yeah cracking down on the child trafficking networks operating on telegram would totally not do a thing /s
It wouldn't. Anyone into that shit will just go somewhere else, and the price of that is yet another erosion of privacy.
yes if you go after people sharing it on the network you make it harder for them to access it. stop defending csam it's creepy.
Look, just because people don't agree that a specific method will be effective, that doesn't mean they support it.
That's shitty thinking, and even shittier behavior. You should be ashamed of yourself for going there in what was previously a civil, friendly discussion.
They could at least do on-device hash lookups and prevent sending. Has zero effect on privacy and does reduce CSAM.
Yah, that would be a great solution in comparison, but it's still privacy invasive. Not as bad, but it's still not giving people due process.
Which, not everywhere in the world recognizes that principle as a right, I am aware. But I do consider due process a right, and scanning anything on anyone's devices without a legally justifiable reason is a violation of that.
I'm not willing to kowtow to a moral panic and just ignore the erosion of privacy "because the children". And it is a moral panic. As bad as it is, as much as I personally would enjoy five minutes alone with someone that's making or using kiddie porn of any stripe, it simply isn't such a common thing that stripping everyone of their privacy, in any way is acceptable.
They wanna figure out a way to target individuals suspected of that kind of crime, awesome. Untargeted, sweeping invasions simply are not acceptable, and I do not care what the purported reason of the week is; kiddie porn, terrorism, security, stopping drugs, I do not care. I have committed no crime, and refuse to give away the presumption of innocence for myself or anyone else.
Ngl that's pretty sus.
People are morons
If the programs were anything like this, I don't blame them. There's a fine line between child protection and surveillance.
Bingo. The article even says that Telegram has removed confirmed content.
Hmm. I think many services just don't and can't participate because they'd need to break E2EE. Telegram wouldn't with most chats.
When the West wants to censor the internet its always either child protection or national security.thats brought up as the reason.
Thank you for choosing “Tyranny as a Service!”
How would you like this wrapped? [ ] Terrorism [X] Child porn
If they refused to hand over data that they had about individuals on a warrant, I can see how the arrest was kind of justified.
If the arrest was for refusing to install a backdoor for law enforcement to spy on anyone they want, then France needs to be kicked out of EU and sanctioned for human rights violations.
Systemic racism and religious discrimination persisted, including against Muslim women and girls. Racial profiling continued with impunity. Excessive restrictions on protests and excessive use of force by police continued. Mass protests and unrest followed the killing of a 17-year-old boy of Algerian descent by police at a traffic stop. Racist, xenophobic and anti-LGBTI vandalism and violent attacks were frequently reported.
Parliament passed highly controversial new laws authorizing the use of mass video surveillance technology by law enforcement and introducing discriminatory immigration, nationality and asylum restrictions.
Yeah, fuck France.
As a French? Yeah fuck France...
then France needs to be kicked out of EU and sanctioned
This isn't how the EU works.
I'm exaggerating, but France should be held accountable.
Why would they be kicked out of the EU? The EU wants this too: https://www.theverge.com/2024/6/19/24181214/eu-chat-control-law-propose-scanning-encrypted-messages-csam
They've been delaying a vote on it because they haven't had enough support to get it through.
Looks like they'll prepare another round in October, which would be voted on in December. They'll want this to pass under the radar, preferably behind closed doors.
Seems enough countries have changed their stance that it could pass this time, unless we keep putting pressure on our representatives.
Did religions joined child protection schemes? Because they are one of the biggest child indoctrination and abuse schemes in the world.
The manufacturing consent system seems to be in full swing on this one.
Ruling class has been waging war on social media they dont have the ability to backdoor. My guess is they'd come for signal too if they didn't use it themselves.
The government don't usually need the text from your conversations, just the metadata who the person talks to, their location, etc. Signal is a US company, they surely provide all that data. It seems Telegram didn't.
Signal does not. https://signal.org/bigbrother/santa-clara-county/
Tl;dr: Signal gave the court timestamps for three out of nine phone numbers that the court demanded data on. The timestamps were the dates three phone numbers last registered their accounts with Signal. That’s it. That is all the data there was to give.
This is why I use Signal. This is why I donate monthly to Signal.
imagine going to jail just because you refused to address the child abuse and csam on your own network.
Imagine only targetting Telegram and not Meta and Twitter.
Putin loves Elon (& got him to ruin Xhitter apparently) so no, Elon won’t get arrested
meta does get pointed out but not as much since meta actually does things to combat csam.
twitter gets called out ALL the time mostly because elon himself is intervening to reinstate people who share csam because he firedall the trust and safety teams.
Telegram: "Man, fuck them kids bruh!"
The BBC contacted Telegram for comment about its refusal to join the child protection schemes and received a response after publication which has been included.
Where is it? I didn't find it anywhere in the article.
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