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Proton launches privacy-focused Google Docs alternative: Docs in Proton Drive is an open-source, end-to-end encrypted collaborative document editor (proton.me)
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[-] Jarmer@slrpnk.net 128 points 6 months ago

Just tried it out with my proton account. Looks great! It's very simple, but I also like that about it. And of course being private is wonderful.

[-] not_so_handsome_jack@sh.itjust.works 75 points 6 months ago

Simplicity is an underrated feature. I'm really excited to see this come out because I'm becoming a bigger fan of proton every day.

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[-] Nima@leminal.space 117 points 6 months ago

ooooh I love this. Proton is just winning constantly these days.

[-] timewarp@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

No they're not. They can't even finish a single solution, let alone actually make anything functional when you're not using their proprietary servers. They're becoming Microsoft.

[-] micka190@lemmy.world 58 points 6 months ago

They can't finish a single solution

Gee, it's almost as if that's the whole point of an ever-evolving SaaS platform.

[-] slooopy_potatoe@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago

Releasing unfinished products and expect users to just make do while they launch the next product can't be the solution either.

[-] micka190@lemmy.world 44 points 6 months ago

Then it's a good thing all of their products are fully functional and working as advertised, I guess.

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[-] Cyberjin@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

All Their services are online based right? I don't understand why using their proprietary servers is an argument here.

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[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 96 points 6 months ago

Damn. Proton is doing a good job of stacking up W's these days.

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[-] awesome_lowlander@lemmy.dbzer0.com 67 points 6 months ago

The only open source mentioned in the post is their encryption. Not the document editing software. OP please remove your change to the article title, it's extremely misleading.

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[-] BlueMagma@sh.itjust.works 55 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Open source ? Does that mean I can host my own ? Would it be compatible with other self hosted instance ?

EDIT: the only source code I found hasn't been maintained for 3 years.

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[-] Fisch@discuss.tchncs.de 54 points 6 months ago

I like how there seems to be more and more alternatives to MS Office, even from big companies like Google. Best case scenario, this could lead to companies actually starting to use an open format, like ODF, so that all these different office applications can be used without causing issues in the file and that would pave the way for open source alternatives, like LibreOffice or OnlyOffice, to become viable alternatives for a lot more people and companies. Do Google Docs and Proton Drive use/support ODF? I'm pretty sure MS Office supports it.

[-] tourist@lemmy.world 40 points 6 months ago

I wish msoffice would just die a miserable death

Word is a pain in the ass. Resize a table column by 1px and the rest of the document gets absolutely fucked

Excel suffers from similarly frustrating UI issues, but my main problem with it is that it's being used for things that it was never intended to be used for. On the extreme side, a company will shove all their HR info into one xlsx file and then someone will accidentally, somehow unrecoverably, delete it

More commonly, I've had to use it as a progress tracking/ticketing tool. An entire team adding rows, deleting rows, accidentally clearing formulas, highlighting random fucking cells, resizing columns etc. all at the same time. It's just hell.

[-] RecluseRamble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 6 months ago

Abusing Excel as a crappy database is a very real and very widespread problem.

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[-] mutant_zz@lemmy.world 12 points 6 months ago

Sadly, the lock-in is pretty extreme... as is user inertia. Office 365 has made the problem worse as well, even if you have something like OnlyOffice that does a good job of compatibility with Office, it can't sync with OneDrive.

If you collaborate with non-technical people, they will expect you to work in Office formats, and won't even entertain discussion of any alternative.

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[-] fluxc0@lemmy.world 49 points 6 months ago

Proton at this very moment

I CANT STOP WINNING!

[-] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 39 points 6 months ago

When I was degoogling a couple years ago I had a heck of a time choosing between protonmail and fastmail.

I went with the fastmail and, while I have no complaints, I'm starting to glance at greener grass.

[-] DesolateMood@lemm.ee 39 points 6 months ago

I love Proton and will advocate for it any chance I get, but I can also see that it might be good to have people like you who don't put all their eggs in one basket

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[-] exanime@lemmy.world 29 points 6 months ago

Just signed up today for the family plan in my ongoing degoogling process

It's a bit pricey but so far loving it. Specially Proton Pass, coming from bitwarden (which I liked), it's nicer and faster, much faster

[-] BenPranklin@lemmy.world 47 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Don't put all your eggs in one basket again, that's what makes degoogling such a difficult thing. There's several proton services I intentionally avoid and use alternatives for so I don't have to uproot my entire digital life to leave them if they start being shitty. If you go from using all google services to all proton you're setting yourself up to need the same sort of big migration down the road. 15 years ago google was also an awesome company that kept making incredibly useful things for users just because they could and look at them now.

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[-] elucubra@sopuli.xyz 20 points 6 months ago

A lot of people confuse open source with community driven/governed.
If things go awry, you'll be locked-in, married to Proton.

[-] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

How do you mean? You'd just export your data.

[-] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 19 points 6 months ago

They're just too expensive. Like, sure, it costs money to run, but 3.49€/month (the discounted 24 month rate) for the mail only plan, 15 GB storage. (41.88€, $45.17 USD, $67.28 AUD per year)

That's really expensive if you just want mail.

The other stuff, is also really expensive. To the point that makes you think, "there is no way google is making THIS much to make up the difference in advertising to me for a comparable plan".

[-] aquafunk@lemmy.sdf.org 12 points 6 months ago

remember, it's not just about making up the difference per user in advertising, it's about getting and keeping as many people into their ecosystem as possible.

then they make some cash from selling data, and having more data to scrape to train their models and such. proton isnt making any off your data

it'd be great to be able to easily compare cost and expense, but companies obscure so much in the backend. rental car companies buy discounted in bulk, then sell the cars tens of thousands of miles later at a profit, and that's before any income from rental

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[-] flop_leash_973@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago

Doesn't appear you can do anything of that via the Drive mobile app. Maybe one day they will make that possible.

If they can ever get a spreadsheet application I could fully get away from Google for that kind of thing without losing out on anything I care about.

[-] gccalvin@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

I know there are different use cases for each, but generally do people prefer self hosted nextcloud, proton docs, or libre office?

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[-] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 12 points 6 months ago

wake me when we can use them as a saml provider

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