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submitted 6 months ago by m3t00@lemmy.world to c/science@lemmy.world

48 seconds. I predict a glut of helium. balloons for everyone

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[-] Jambalaya@lemmy.zip 23 points 6 months ago

Fusion uses hydrogen and produces helium

[-] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

They use liquid helium to cool the super magnets...

[-] Strykker@programming.dev 15 points 6 months ago

Sure, but they don't consume it, and let it just boil off. They have massive refrigerant setups to bring it down to temp and keep it there.

[-] HornyOnMain@fedia.io 9 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Sure, but why does that mean they must be losing the helium each time? I don't know anything about liquid helium and super conductors, but I know I don't need to replace my radiator fluid just because it cooled my engine.

[-] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago

Once used, it need to be cooled down to -252c to be reused. Not like a closed loop of oil

[-] HornyOnMain@fedia.io 14 points 6 months ago

Alright, did some research, first off you're wrong about this being the reason even if this was a plausible reason. The real reason is the ash and heat divertors failed.

Second, you don't even need liquid helium for super conduction. Here's a few closed loop helium gas coolers that get to 10 kelvin. They need to be refilled on the scale of years, not from a single test.

https://www.arscryo.com/closed-cycle-cryocoolers https://stirlingcryogenics.com/products/closed-loop-helium-gas-cooling-system/

I get you care deeply about helium loss but this is the last thing you should be accidentally spreading misinformation about. This process literally creates more helium then it uses.

[-] n3m37h@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 months ago

I didn't say they did, just said probably, I'm just a stupid redneck.

Oh and how do we capture said multi thousand deg helium?

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Oh and how do we capture said multi thousand deg helium?

By cooling down the air that contains it until it's liquid, then distilling that. Actually a standard process though usually you freeze down natural gas not just random air, it's quite helium-rich.

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