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If Trump Wins... ? (lemmy.world)
submitted 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) by TokenBoomer@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

Americans; If Trump wins in November, what are your plans?

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[-] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 months ago

I'm curious, what do you get out of saying this?

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago

What do you mean? Just because you wish you were a woman doesn't make you a woman. It's nothing wrong with being feminine, of wishing you were a woman, but it doesn't change hard facts, that you have XY-chromosomes, and are born with a dick.

[-] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 9 points 8 months ago

You were most likely born without hair, doesn't make you bald.

Your definition of sex is stuck in the 90's. Time to update it before you lose your grip on reality.

And if you can't handle modern time, there is always the Amish.

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I'm not the one losing grip on reality. Even if you take hormones, or chop of your dick, your chromosomes stay the same.

[-] midnight@kbin.social 5 points 8 months ago

So what?? Why do chromosomes matter at all? Gender ≠ sex. Anyone is allowed to identify however they want, and it literally hurts nobody.

However, trans people do actually have brain structures that mismatch their assigned sex at birth. Also, most differences of sex are just caused by hormones, so HRT really does meaningfully change someone's sex.
You should also know that human biology is not so clean cut. Intersex people exist, and for example there are people born female with a Y chromosome.

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Unless you have more data to back it up than a single study made in Mexico, you don't have much data to back up your point with. Studies can often have biases, so one study alone doesn't exactly prove a lot. I'm sure there are plenty of studies concluding the opposite.

And why does anything matter at all? Besides the biological processes in your body being different. Being a specific sex/gender doesn't require you to act a certain way, you can literally do anything you want. I just think it's wrong to differentiate sex and gender.

By quoting wikipedia:

Some people maintain that the word sex should be reserved for reference to the biological aspects of being male or female or to sexual activity, and that the word gender should be used only to refer to sociocultural roles. ... In some situations this distinction avoids ambiguity, as in gender research, which is clear in a way that sex research is not. The distinction can be problematic, however. Linguistically, there isn't any real difference between gender bias and sex bias, and it may seem contrived to insist that sex is incorrect in this instance.

I am certainly not the only one disputing this.

[-] littletranspunk@lemmus.org 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Here's something that will not only educate you on it, but also has all the references in the show notes (science vs)

https://chrt.fm/track/15E3G4/traffic.megaphone.fm/GLT8377277641.mp3?updated=1662128895

Sex ≠ chromosomes

Sex ≠ gender

Gender ≠ chromosomes

Biology is far more complicated than what you're thinking

Edit: apparently that was just the audio, here's the show notes for that episode http://bit.ly/31k0oNk

[-] BaardFigur@lemmy.world 1 points 8 months ago

I'm not opening a bit.ly link. Give me the actual source

[-] littletranspunk@lemmus.org 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Okay, here.

Scroll to the bottom for all 139 cited sources

https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vRFXLhhERXo--5-CwVix0RXRlRf2qEoBWKx-_HGIJIrP9Ii5H0C5RIilJ40fYM52Tc7eaC4WRPInEzw/pub

If you don't want to do that then my next step will be to post all the sources in a massive comment(s maybe)

[-] JoBo@feddit.uk 6 points 8 months ago

You're a long way behind on your biology reading.

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