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I'm fucking enraged man. I hope we can regulate these assholes.
There is a very easy solution. Don't buy apple.
That's not a solution. It's a way for you to avoid the problem. It does nothing to help the millions of people who are already deeply invested in the Apple ecosystem.
then sell apple
This could even go as high as a 'don't buy'
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ERjJDjjUYAEutgQ.jpg
Don't buy! Don't buy!
Not a solution.
This not only has a time and effort cost attached to it but selling your used hardware to buy new hardware is always a bad value proposition.
Perfect for the genius bar.
sunk cost fallacy
Not sure if it's a fallacy if it's about addressing people who have spent a ton on an ecosystem and can't just devote more money to buy the alternative and time to figure out the parts that aren't compatible
What parts aren't compatible? And you can load Linux and Windows on all Mac's. You can also sell your iPhone and buy an android phone with money left over... getting out of the apple closed ecosystem is cheaper than sticking with it.
For most people, time is not regarded to be free (i.e. not a cost). As a devoted Linux user, the adage that "Linux is only free if you don't value your time" is absolutely true.
Uhh ok install windows then?
Learning Windows is still a time cost. You're also losing your library of Mac software and quite a few interoperability features between your other Apple products.
??? So you're plan is to just say fuck it, and continue to be fucked over by apple? The fuck logic is that? Almost all software has a replacement in windows/Linux. I work in all 3 ecosystems, there is very little that lacks an alternative in each os. Sticking to osx/iOS is just a cop out.
No. My argument is that if Apple isn't going to open up their ecosystem to genuine competition and genuine interoperability then they need to have their hand forced through regulation.
Telling people to just stop buying Apple products is a lazy, knee-jerk self-righteous response that ignores the realities of platform lock-in.
You can't refund anything that's not physical, for one...
Where did I say refund anything?
You asked what parts aren't compatible, and one answer is everything bought for Apple computers, iPhones, iPads, etc. Apps, media, anything that isn't subscription based.
And windows/Android/Linux all have alternatives. This is not an excuse.
What's the alternative to $5,000 of DRM encrypted media exclusively served by Apple?
The point of this thought experiment is to understand that sunk cost is a real thing outside of a fallacy.
What media is served by apple only?
This
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203375
This
https://www.apple.com/apple-books/
This
https://www.apple.com/itunes/
??? All of that is accessible on both other OS's
*sigh*
https://www.apple.com/app-store/
Okay, so you would advise someone who bought, say, Photoshop on a Mac OS to consider that cost sunk, and then to purchase what on Linux?
Gimp for Linux. It's free even.
On top of that the Photoshop license is not os specific. You can use it for Windows or osx.
No, it's not a sunk-cost fallacy.
If you already have a bunch of Apple stuff, it makes more sense to continue using Apple stuff, because switching would cost money and effort. You'd also lose access to the software library that you paid for.
Having a bunch of Apple stuff also makes buying more Apple stuff in the future a better value proposition because you gain access to features that you wouldn't otherwise have. Platform lock-in is not a sunk-cost fallacy. You're just uninformed and being smug about it.
The sunk cost fallacy only applies when stopping is free or the cost is low enough (in money or effort) that it makes more sense to quit than continue.
Then deinvest?
What a fucking argument. "Yes, it is a problem, but it is too hard for me to do anything about it, someone else should fix it"
You cannot root out the evil from within such massive companies. Nvidia still has a stranglehold on the market with CUDA. Literally the only thing one can do is to employ their wallet towards more fruitful endeavours, like donating and purchasing Android in this case. People who are invested into Apple are going to have to face that they made a choice moving away from freedom, even though I understand that staying the odd one out socially isn't a lot of fun. There's nothing to be done here unless someone with a lot of money and lawyers sues Apple. Know anyone willing to do that?
People should fully own the computers they buy, regardless of which company they buy from.
This means root access and a replacable primary bootloader, let alone just being able to install apps not on a curated market (what Apple calls sideloading). macOS and Windows both manage to allow root access, and so do certain Android devices (and obviously other OSs as well). Replacable primary bootloaders are more rare, though, especially in ARM devices due to efuse-based secure boot in the CPU that is impossible to turn off. There's only one phone I can think of that allows for replacing the primary bootloader (Shift 6mq).
We shouldn't allow for artificial restrictions placed by corporations on devices they sell, because as we have seen time and time again, companies copy each others' restrictions, especially Apple. Same goes with game consoles, IoT devices, Smart TVs, etc. And before you mention the potential for piracy, DRM is an artificial restriction placed by corporations, and should also be removed from devices.
Anything less means that you don't own the device that you paid for.
Apple is clearly attempting to comply with the EU DMA in bad faith so that they can maintain as much control over their users and app developers as possible.
Why do you hate consumer protection law?
boycotts barely work, and doubly so when the company has a legion of faithful fanbois and its among the biggest corporations on the planet.
I don't. Many people do. To protect their very clear monopolistic goals, we need to protect consumers from this stuff.
I’d like to add that even if you sell apple. The only other alternative is android and they have their own set of issues.
For me, an iPhone that allows sideloading would be a huge step towards perfect.