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Scientists discover first new antibiotics in over 60 years using AI
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A perfect example of the black and white thinking that has caused so much harm.
https://humanmicrobiome.info/antibiotics/#antibiotics-overuse
If the choice between giving someone life saving antibiotics or disrupting their gut microbiom until they eat some yogurt, that's an easy choice.
False equivalency is what you're doing, btw
What you just said is harmful misinformation and 100% demonstrates that you didn't read a damn thing that you're responding to and acting like you're an expert on.
It isn't, and a random website isn't a source
If you have an article from a medical journal, or a study with a sample size of over 1,000 diverse participants I'll happily read that.
I could make a website that contradicts everything in the one you linked and host that for free.
Antibiotics save lives. Vaccines save lives. They are good things.
So you clearly don't understand how citations work. You shouldn't even be engaging in discussions like this until you do.
Once again proving that you didn't read anything you're arguing about. You need to reassess your behavior.
False dichotomy, further demonstrating your cluelessness.
I know I'm not going to convince you, and that's fine, but people like you get other people killed.
Steve Jobs infamously had a treatable form of cancer, but instead of going to a doctor and doing the scientifically verified treatment he ate fruit that some nut job said would cure him and he died.
The only medical advice anyone should ever give is go to a doctor. That's it. Period. The end.
Trippling down on your pigheaded ignorance to the point where you're now projecting all your errors and flaws outward.
Once again, a false dichotomy, demonstrating an inability of critical thinking and ability to differentiate shades of color.
This would apply well to YOU, because YOU clearly have no clue what you're talking about. Yet you violated your own policy. You should have stayed quiet on this topic which you clearly know nothing about.
And FYI, that is unfortunately not valid for everyone to abide by: https://forum.humanmicrobiome.info/threads/doctors-are-not-systematically-updated-on-the-latest-literature-what-t.27/
Yes, you would need actual knowledge and scientific citations to do that. Something you're clearly devoid of.
My stance is consistent, clear, and concise. Medical decisions should be made by doctors.
Just so everyone reading this knows what your stance is, can you make that clear? So far I've heard nothing but contrarianism.
Projecting again. I was the one who started off by sharing information and you were the one who contradicted it.
It is clear to anyone with the ability to click links and read the contents. It's only unclear to you since you opted not to do that.
You've linked a lot of other people's opinions, which is fine. A lot of stuff about how doctors aren't always right, diagnoses aren't always correct, and how antibiotics are prescribed in situations that aren't necessary, like viral infections, which agreed, all of that happens.
But the context you're avoiding is your original claim.
It is beyond ridiculous and what started this whole thing.
So, again, for everyone reading, my claim is that doctors should be the ones to make medical decisions. Antibiotics save lives, and to add one more, people who advocate for their disuse because humans make mistakes, should rightfully be called out.
And since you're such a fan of random website "sources".
https://jennymccarthybodycount.com/
Never forget anti vaxxers, and anti medicine people in general, are responsible for hundreds of thousands of preventable deaths.
It's not. A plethora of supporting citations were provided.
And yet again, you continue with your false equivalency of anti-vax and anti-antibiotic.
Buddy, I get it. You're campaigning against antibiotic overuse. That's true. Antibiotics are over prescribed. I've never said they weren't.
What you need to chill on is giving people medical advice. I took a look at your post history, and this is a topic you're clearly passionate about
But you are not a doctor. You are not even in the medical field. It looks like you're an IT nerd. Which is great. We need nerds
But you espousing your opinions can hurt people. There are countless examples of people rejecting medicine that works, for essentially folk cures that do not. People die. Children are one of the most vulnerable to this, and I have personal experience with kids suffering because of people like you, campaigning against western medicine, convincing impressionable morons that alternative medicine works.
You are not a doctor, medical researcher, or a scientist researching bacterial diseases. You are a person reading what other people write on the Internet, and fixating on the gut biome above all other things is simply the wrong way to look at this.
Antibiotics save lives.
Projecting again. Also some random bold and baseless claims.
I have personal experience with people suffering because of people like you.
I checked again, and you're fighting this fight with a lot of people.
Why? What's your personal experience?
My personal experience is irrelevant. I'm fighting with many people because many people are making harmful, false statements.
You can't even say antibiotics save lives.
Of course your personal experience is what we're talking about.