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submitted 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) by simple@lemm.ee to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

Whoever is in charge of that instance, STOP.

It's an instance that crossposts posts from Reddit, except it also makes a new user for each Reddit account it came from. So if /u/hello123 made a post, it makes that post under a new account called hello123. That makes it impossible to block posting bots.

Not only that, it makes posts look like they're posted by real people, with many question and text posts being copied as well. I was very confused as to what these posts were until I realized they're crossposts.

Examples:

https://alien.top/post/263029

https://lemm.ee/u/pocalyuko@alien.top

https://lemm.ee/u/ItzMeRocket@alien.top

https://lemm.ee/u/CaptainCapp-n@alien.top

I strongly believe Lemmy isn't the place for mirroring content from other websites. You can host your own alternate Reddit frontend like LibReddit, there's no reason to spam the posts to everyone using Lemmy just because 5 people asked for it. Not to mention there are already enough instances mirroring posts, this is getting obnoxious.

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[-] rglullis@communick.news 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

There is no "misresporting". Selfhosted forum is a topic-based instance, like many other that set up as part of !communick_news_network@communick.news .

alien.top is a fediverser instance, which is done to help mirror content and to help people from reddit to migrate.

The whole idea of fediverser is to make migration for redditors as easy as possible and in a way that they when they migrate they have access to all the content they were used to.

[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Some clients see the instance name as alien.top when it is a actually selfhosted.forum. When the instance info is referenced, it's reporting back both names. Lemmy can clients see one or the other and just blocking alien.top won't stop the spammy noise.

When I try to block a post from selfhosted.forum the client sees it as alien.top. This is partially a client issue, but it is likely caused by how the instances are presented.

Nobody hates the idea of a "Reddit transition instance". We just can't stand the noise it generates and that little effort was put into identifying posts as bot generated.

You mentioned somewhere that people should comment on those posts to help bootstrap conversations. Unfortunately, that is not how this is working out and it is wasting people's time.

[-] rglullis@communick.news 3 points 10 months ago

Again, this might be an UI/UX issue, but there is no misreporting.

What you are seeing is the homepage of selfhosted.forum, which is an instance that by itself does not take any users and is only the home of the communities, like !homelab@selfhosted.forum or !main@selfhosted.forum.

Alien.top works by being a home to accounts only (no communities) and they follow specific rules about what "which content from each subreddit should go to which lemmy community". For example, content from /r/homelab will be posted by alien.top to !homelab@selfhosted.forum.

The "about page" of selfhosted.forum contains information disclosing that the instance is part of the "Communick News Network" and promotes two alternatives for the people that want to sign up for Lemmy. Granted, it is missing information about the selfhosted instance is supposed to be about (which I have done already in other instances like level-up.zone) , but this in any way means that the "instance" is misreporting itself.

[-] Pika@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I might not be understanding the post- correctly. From my perspective using connect I can go to alien.top and then select a post that's on that instance and then the instance will change from alien.top to the self-hosted one, which is confusing to me as a user. This happens even when I tap on the alien top instance as a whole.

Is this just because the second instance is the only instance that federates with alien top? If that's the case I think it might be a good idea to merge the two for less confusion and allow better moderation for users client side

this post was submitted on 04 Dec 2023
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