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Because microblogging is about shouting into the void and threaded fora are about conversation.
This is it. It's the same as Reddit being better than Twitter for conversation.
But this is also why Kbin is the best technology, combining both platforms.
Are you sure about that? Because they way I see it, Kbin is lagging behind both Mastodon & Lemmy.
kbin has been vastly lagging behind lemmy because for a lengthy period of time development has been effectively stopped as the primary dev (ernest) was going through some bad real life issues which took priority. This led to a lot of people leaving kbin or blocking it outright because of spam and bots and lack of updates.
Ernest returned a weekish ago and is back to publishing updates (including several which have already killed the spam problem, being able to transfer community ownership and more) and daily posts dictating what he's working on and pushing (including the API which should be within the next few days).
Lemmy at this point has had a huge head start and isn't basically one person so kbin lagging behind isn't surprising. Doesn't mean their statement of 'But this is also why Kbin is the best technology, combining both platforms.' is any less accurate. Kbin does combine both platforms, Lemmy doesn't. 'Best' can be subjective, but if that's their opinion then there ya go.
I just like having the option to dip my toes in the micro blogging stuff. I still don't know how to mine it for dopamine though.
A lot of the devs left Kbin due to the on-man-leadership problem and started their own fork Mbin which has been progressing more quickly. A lot of instances have moved to Mbin, including kbin.run which I am on. Either way, it is performing very well overall and does enable interaction with both Lemmy and Mastodon instances. I check Lemmy instances directly periodically and don't see any advantage to returning when Mbin lets me interact with more content.
It's lagging behind in terms of adoption, but it's a better platform.
Yep. I've been here for one day and I'm already talking in conversations. Took me two weeks to get anywhere on Mastodon. (And exactly the same on Reddit and Twitter before... the incidents.)
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Thanks! I'll check it out.
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Twitter doing this was by design, while Mastodon doesn't tend to shadow ban. I might make my guesses about why, but I don't know the actual complete reasoning as to why it seems to be better for discusion on Lemmy.
I think it's not even about shadowbanning, I think it's about Twitter not giving you anything to interact with (a discovery mechanism). Reddit/Lemmy has a list of subreddits/communities that have a clear focus, so you can jump right in and engage. Neither Twitter nor Mastodon have that. There, you need to find people who generally post/share things that interest you, but that's a lot more difficult.
Can you explain this a little further? I was on kbin originally, but jumped to Lemmy after boost came out. From what I've seen they're more or less the same experience, but I'm not super educated on the intricacies of the Fediverse
Kbin is a link aggregator with nested discussions (like lemmy, or reddit) but it also is a fully featured microblogging service (like mastadon, or Twitter).
You can microblog on kbin, engage with hashtags, etc.
Kbin is lemmy and mastadon rolled into one.
I had similar thoughts as OP then it took me some time to realise this. Microblogging is when you just need to say something but don't care to have a discussion about it.