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[-] RooPappy@kbin.social 35 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Big fucking sigh. I've been an Android user since the T-mobile G1, and I have ferociously defended the platform against iPhone for that entire time.

Is there a 3rd option? Or do I have to learn to love the enemy? I won't be a part of the problem with privacy just because I'm too lazy to change.

[-] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 19 points 10 months ago

Use Graphene, Lineage or DivestOS (fork of Lineage) . Graphene and Divest enable you to sandbox all Google BS if you need it, and Dos uses their own we view from Mull.

[-] fuzzzerd@programming.dev 8 points 10 months ago

What about bank apps and nfc? Do those work or are you just out of luck if you need them on graphene or lineage?

[-] isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca 5 points 10 months ago

No attestation = no Google Pay

[-] ijeff@lemdro.id 13 points 10 months ago
[-] RooPappy@kbin.social 4 points 10 months ago

I love the idea, and would be willing to be an early adopter of a linux phone... but its tough to give up application support.

[-] BaldDude@sh.itjust.works 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Honourable mention for Sailfish OS

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sailfish_OS

The commercial version comes with an android emulator.

It's not recommended for non-technical people, it sometimes crashes, it has random bugs that will drive you insane, and currently the weather app can't connect to the service that provides the weather data.

But:

The people making it are not seeing you as the product and you will be free of all the bullshit.

..... and i love it :)

[-] shapis@lemmy.ml 3 points 10 months ago

I have ferociously defended the platform against iPhone

Why tho

[-] RooPappy@kbin.social 15 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Because Apple are: closed system, unrepairable, proprietary, refuse to adopt standards, elitist and exclusionary, and generally less flexible and customizable. They are a baby toy, they are any recent BMW, and they are jerks about it.

And somehow, that's becoming the better option over thieves and scammers with bad intentions. I may have to go with the assholes over the bastards. It doesn't feel great.

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago

I get you, but calling iOS a toy just makes you sound childish and ignorant. I don't use apple for the same reasons, but iOS right now offers by far the most polish, mature and thought-through experience. In the meantime, Android continues to change everything on a whim every couple versions to nonsensical defaults. The UI keeps getting worse.

But I just can't stand the inability of customizing iOS. Google is strangling the platform, replacing FOSS features with Google counterparts, and if it wasn't for Samsung and maybe a few other big ones, they would probably have abandoned AOSP by now.

[-] MaggiWuerze@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago

iOS right now offers by far the most polish, mature and thought-through experience

If you want to do it exactly as they allow you to. Everytime you try to deviate from Apples happy path there are suddenly thorns everywhere and you find yourself without any support, be it on iOS or MacOS

[-] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 10 months ago

I should have said out of the box experience.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago

Use custom ROMs

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