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What the hell is the Java business model? Do you mean Oracle, when you say Java?
I’ve literally developed Java applications and never heard of the “Java business model”, Java costs nothing for its developers or users, other than dignity.
I presume you mean the open-source versions of the JVM published by other companies like IBM, or maybe there's some other distinction that I don't understand? As far as I know, Oracle Java has required a paid license for the last few years: https://redresscompliance.com/decoding-oracle-java-licensing-java-licensing-changes-2023/
Right. I've been working with Java ever since 1.1.6 back in the late 1990s (so, yeah, 25 years now). I get having opinions about Java and the JVM, but there is no business model associated with it unless they're referring to what Oracle has tried to do with Java in the past (the licensing and whatnot) which is immaterial these days due to OpenJDK and various other Java/JVM providers.
This is probably simple confusion is all. Because the poster isn't wrong about everything being taxed and the consumer always having to pay for it. Greed is running rampant and unchecked now and while it has been this way for some time, it seems to have accelerated during and since the pandemic.
Dignity AND sanity.
Oh you don’t know which company sells the most licenses for a jdk?
What?
I’m just shocked you didn’t know Oracle™️ Java™️ runs on 3 billion devices!
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If you're going to say things, it might be helpful to have a clue about what you're saying.
t. God’s most pedantic redditor
If you knew I was talking about oracle and just wanted to make a point that oracle wasn’t the only one that licensed the JDK first of all, why not just say that, and what the hell does it have to do with my comment?
No one cares about your Java dev experience, this post wasn’t about Java, or OpenJDK, you just wanted to be a dick, and that makes you a dork
This you?
This also you?
You are clearly insane. Good bye.
Yes mr pedant, you made your point that other companies license a JDK, but you should have done so directly without being an idiot
No, I made my point that you simply don't know what you're talking about. If you wish to keep trying to act like I'm the asshole for pointing out your clear misunderstandings (as numerous other people did in the thread) while you try to lash out instead of saying "Oh crap, I misunderstood, thanks for helping me" or "No, I meant something else.", then by all means, please continue. I originally commented simply asking if you meant Oracle. You could have easily said "Yes." and moved on. But you didn't, instead relying on continued ad hominem attacks.
And your attempt to discredit me by calling me a pedant only reinforces everything I have typed.
We're done now. You're no longer worth my effort.
You want me to thank you? You must be a joy to work with lol
You also said you were done replying after the last message sweetheart ❤️