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submitted 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) by CosmicGiraffe@lemmy.world to c/lemmyworld@lemmy.world

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The admins on lemmynsfw.com have decided to allow "non-IRL loli", i.e. drawn porn involving children/teenagers. (Post: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/29633).

Irrelevant of the moral issues that this poses, such content is illegal in many countries (e.g the UK). Continuing to federate with lemmynsfw.com will put users at risk of significant legal repercussions.

Please would the admins consider defederating unless lemmynsfw change their policy.

UPDATE: The lemmynsfw admins posted an clarification here: https://lemmynsfw.com/post/29826. My original argument for defederating doesn't stand any more.

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[-] sorenant@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think those countries should put the resources used to go after neckbeards fapping to drawings to investigate people trafficking real children.

[-] purahna@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

the venn diagram is a circle

also, that aside, "the resources" here are a little different, mounting investigative operations to bust lolicons/pedophiles (same thing) requires more resources than just flipping the switch off on some pedophile's ability to communicate freely

[-] sorenant@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Are you the kind of person that says people playing FPS games are more likely to become mass shooters?

It might not be our liking but loli is at worst a victimless crime, not the same as the real pedophiles (eg Epstein's associates, like Prince Andrew). I think by saying they're the same, you're actually belittling the gravity of the other.

[-] purahna@lemmygrad.ml 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

This is a really good argument until you learn that mass shooters are less than one in a million but child sexual abusers are more than one in a hundred, despite there being tens of millions of FPS players and probably only hundreds of thousands of CSAM consumers in America. It's a catchy gotcha but it completely fails to hold up under material scrutiny.

Mass shootings and child sexual abuse are very different things, and so are CSAM and video games. You would benefit from losing some of the reductivism you've got there.

[-] sorenant@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

You're actually supporting my point. Despite tens of millions of FPS players, there's only less than one in a million cases of mass shooting. Meanwhile child abuse is more common despite loli stuff being uncommon in US compared to places like Japan. This to me seems like an argument to say there's no correlation between the fictional and real counterparts.

If anything, being unable to set apart reality from fiction and saying both are the same is the reductionist stance.