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submitted 1 year ago by audiomodder to c/main

I’m not sure what’s going on over there, but half the time I see a post from there or go into a comment section and it’s just…bad. Like old reddit the_donald bad. Constant trolling, etc. You TS just really bad vibes. I’ve been blocking the communities as they come up, but I’m not sure what else I can do.

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[-] forcequit@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

The problem is that they are in support of regimes which are currently or historically anti LGBT+. There is no further discussion to be had. Even if they claim to be whatever, they are against us.

we're not against you. We are you. We all want a better world and work towards it however we can. Painting us as queerphobic feels pretty disingenuous

[-] Swiggles 17 points 1 year ago

Then stop associating with the queerphobic regimes. Simple.

If you side with the people who are against us I have no reason to trust you in any way.

[-] sammer510@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

A significant portion of Hexbears users are LGBT themselves. Your argument kind of falls flat.

[-] Swiggles 12 points 1 year ago

No, not really. It is not even special. I mean there are Polish Nazis around. They associate with the same people who will eat their face the first chance they get.

That's how I see you. It's the same situation really.

I don't understand why you associate with those regimes, defend them or even cheer them on. But I doubt there is anything I can say to change your mind.

[-] sammer510@hexbear.net 29 points 1 year ago

There is nothing you can say to change my mind, no, because it seems all you have to try to convince me is concern trolling and that's not gonna help you lol. But I'll cheer on any country or regime that challenges Western hegemony, NATO, and AmeriKKKa. Not uncritically. But being opposed to the US and NATO is a good thing actually so 🤷‍♂️

[-] Swiggles 9 points 1 year ago

And because you are against those things your conclusion is to support the next bad actor on the world stage?

What a terrible take.

[-] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 20 points 1 year ago

And because you are against those things your conclusion is to support the next bad actor on the world stage?

What a terrible take.

China is a lot more ethical than the US? And russia will never be more than a regional superpower, and anti-colonial theorists basically all agree that multiple poles of power in the world is good for anti-colonialist struggle.

[-] Swiggles 8 points 1 year ago

China? What time? The forced castrations? Not allowed to be employed and shunned by the public? Officially seen as a disease until just a few years ago and still by big parts of the public? The judges ruling homosexuals as abnormal and unacceptable? Even after slightly more acceptance in the past 10 years the regular police raids of gay bars? The cancellation of any LGBT+ events? It still being seen as abnormal sexual practices?

I am not sure I ever read about any trans* rights at all. It is probably much worse or I assume impossible to even receive any gender affirming care or rights. This last part is pure speculation based on the way China is handling homosexuality.

If it wasn't about LGBT+ rights. Oh dear. We want to gloss over the Uyghur genocide? Concentration camps put a country very far to the bottom of my list of ethical regimes.

Also what is with all the US comparisons and whataboutism? I mean just because it is horrible what they are doing doesn't make any of the other major problems any less severe.

[-] GarbageShoot@hexbear.net 4 points 1 year ago

Uyghur genocide? Concentration camps

You can search places like c/askchapo to get some information on this topic, or post a thread yourself if you like.

tl;dr it's atrocity propaganda and both the UN and every Muslim-majority country in the world agrees

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