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submitted 1 year ago by spaduf to c/mensliberation@lemmy.ca

From the article:

Sadly, the woman I briefly dated is not alone in her beliefs. In a survey of over 1,000 women, conducted by Glamour in 2016, 63% of women said they wouldn’t date a man who’s had sex with another man. (This isn’t just men who identify as bi. This includes all men who’ve experimented with another man, even if it only happened once!) Still, 47% of women said they've been attracted to another woman, and 31% of women have had a sexual experience with another woman.

NOTE: This is not the titular study but is used to establish context. The study can be found here: https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/15299716.2018.1563935?journalCode=wjbi20
If anybody happens to be able to find the fulltext please feel free to link it.

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[-] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 34 points 1 year ago

Yeah I don't think this is super surprising unfortunately.

Being a man and dating men undermines patriarchial conceptions of masculinity. A lot of these conceptions are very deeply-held; I think it's easy to consider acceptance easy when it's academic or theoretical, but when it becomes personal all bets are off. Think of all the pro-gay parents, who, when their children come out, completely flip out.

I think there's also, tragically, a large element of HIV stigma in here.

[-] spaduf 15 points 1 year ago

HIV stigma has a huge role to play in the history of the phenomena. See AIDS SPECTER FOR WOMEN: THE BISEXUAL MAN

[-] spaduf 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Here's a relevant video on the topic. I tried to post it but folks don't seem to like the title. It's primarily about the history there: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbHhIeYL9no

[-] intensely_human@lemm.ee 8 points 1 year ago

Patriarchal conceptions of masculinity is aka the instincts of straight female humans.

Everyone wants to blame culture, and via the word “patriarchy” they want to blame men, for this kind of thing but it’s way deeper than that.

[-] BloodForTheBloodGod@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 year ago

straight female humans.

[-] Veraticus@lib.lgbt 13 points 1 year ago

No, this isn't just women; it is patriarchy, the entire set of power and systems that everyone participates in. Men blame men for being bisexual at least as much as women do.

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

please, don't waste words, look of his others comments, just report if you want, but i don't they can be convised to let go the hate

[-] spaduf 8 points 1 year ago

To be fair, in this case I doubt they broke any rules. Speaking up always does more than downvotes. Particularly true for those of us on instances without downvotes.

[-] hastati@beehaw.org 10 points 1 year ago

Why do you say “female” but follow it with “men” instead of “male”? Makes you seem like an incel or some men’s rights nut job.

[-] Vilian@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago

what thw fuckn i recomend you to go outside, what a bullshit, and this isn't a pro-gender war community, stop spreading that, no, actually, go to your red pill/incel instances, just from you using "female" i can feel the misoginy, pleaae, let us alone

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