338
submitted 1 month ago by 101@feddit.org to c/technology@lemmy.world
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 117 points 1 month ago

Wait, the centralized service that security experts warned for years could be easily compromised because a centralized messaging service is inherently insecure has now been compromised? Surprised Pikachu face

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 49 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Owned by a fake rebel russian who has somehow managed to keep from falling out of a window on a high floor. Cough, cough plant.

[-] Star@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 month ago

Not to discredit your arguement but isn't Signal also centralised?

[-] lemmylommy@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

It is. But it is open source and the encryption is solid. All communication data is end-to-end encrypted. They have been subpoenaed before and all they could provide was when the account was first registered and when it was last used. The signal protocol is well documented and open source. The foundation and LLC behind it are registered in California and are run by reputable people.

Telegram is run by shady people, supposedly out of Dubai, while it is registered in the British Virgin Islands. Its clients are also open source, however the encryption, if enabled, is of the home cooked variety, although it was improved over time. Unfortunately it is not enabled by default, you need to enter a „secure chat“ for that, which only works with single contacts, not with groups. Despite having access to everything else, and working like a social media-messenger-hybrid, telegram is very reluctant to get rid of clearly illegal content.

[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

The data is not centralized in the same way, making it slightly better, but yeah. A lot of the same pitfalls of centralization happen there. The whole system doesn't operate without the corporate servers in the middle, even though they don't see or store the data. They have total access to Metadata. The organization could be sold for profit, shut down, change terms, etc.

If security is important, you're better off with something decentralized like matrix. I'm not an expert, so hopefully, a lot of people here who are smarter than me will fact check these statements, but at least those are my impressions.

[-] MiltownClowns@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

It is, which is why the comment didn't advocate for it. Signal has more robust encryption than telegram, but its not zero-trust. They should really be using private hosted services instead of public or pgp, but when battle kicks off you use whatever works and then go back and revise as needed when you're not dodging bombs.

[-] melroy@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 1 month ago

I know right..

this post was submitted on 20 Sep 2024
338 points (100.0% liked)

Technology

59017 readers
3150 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS