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A Cuban teenager unwittingly found himself on the front lines of the war in Ukraine after accepting a job offer he received on WhatsApp to do "construction work" for the Russian military, according to Time magazine.

Alex Vegas Díaz, 19, and a friend were taken to a military base, outfitted with weapons, and then sent to fight, according to Time, which reviewed social media footage posted by Vegas Díaz.

In one of the videos, dated August 31, which went viral, Vegas Díaz can be seen in a Russian hospital recovering from an unspecified illness. According to Time, he said he was due to be sent back to the front upon recovery.

From his hospital bed, he pleaded to "help get us out of here," adding: "What is happening in Ukraine is ugly—to see people with their heads open before you, to see how people are killed, feel the bombs falling next to you."

According to Time, Vegas Díaz said in one video: "There are dead Cubans, there are missing Cubans, and this is not going to end until the war is over."

He added: "We know that Cuba is aware and our advice to Cubans is not to come here. This is the craziest thing. Crazy. Don't do it."

Time reported that Vegas Díaz became part of a large operation that openly recruited hundreds of Cubans to join the Russian army to fight in Ukraine.

According to the magazine, the recruitment effort involved adverts for job contracts with the Ministry of Defence in Russia that began to appear on Cuban Facebook groups in June.

It said that recruits were offered 204,000 rubles, or $2,120 US dollars, to sign up.

Average monthly salaries in Cuba are dramatically lower, making it an enticing prospect.

Time reviewed the job contracts, which it said required a one-year commitment, but came with an enlistment fee and a payout for the families of recruits if they are killed in action.

The exact number of Cubans recruited through this initiative remains uncertain, with estimates provided to Time ranging from hundreds to more than a thousand

Though Cuba's foreign ministry described the recruitment effort as a "human trafficking network," four Cuba experts and former US officials expressed skepticism to Time

They said that the Cuban government, a long-standing ally of Russia, may be using such language to maintain the appearance of a neutral stance in the Ukraine conflict, Time reported.

Regardless of the nature or provenance of the recruitment drive, there is concern in the US that recruits such as Vegas Díaz may have been deceived into accepting job offers.

The State Department said in a statement provided to Time that "we are deeply concerned that young Cubans may have been deceived and recruited to fight for Russia in its brutal full-scale invasion of Ukraine, and we continue to monitor this situation closely."

The US State Department did not immediately respond to Insider's request for comment.

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[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 59 points 1 year ago

Putin is not a Comrade and is just as bad if not worse than Bush. This is a war to secure resources, not a war to denazify Ukraine.

[-] popcap200@lemmy.ml 52 points 1 year ago

It feels weird to compare Putin to bush given the probable genocide going on. Murdering whole villages, raping babies, shipping kids back to Russia to brainwash them, forcing fake elections to annex territory, purposefully causing international crisis by limiting the export of food, and purposefully blowing up dams. Bush and Putin are incomparable.

Bush and Cheney deserves prison. Putin and his whole government deserve to see the world upside down for a brief time.

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago

So not that much different from what America did in Iraq, got it!

[-] GreatGrapeApe@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago

Less rape, genocide and outright theft of appliances in America's invasion but yeah both were objectively fought to steal resources.

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[-] Fantomas@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

Man I fuckin hate bush but you're too high on the borscht if you think he's comparable to Putin.

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 year ago

Manufacturing a war based on deceiving your population with hyper patriotic propaganda and out right lies is Manufacturing a war based on deceiving your population with hyper patriotic propaganda and out right lies 🤷‍♂️

[-] Count042@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Yeah, so far Bush is responsible for far more death.

I'm not sure what metric you would use to quantify how bad a person is, but the number of people they are responsible for killing seems like an okay one.

They are both fucking evil, and should be lined up against a wall.

Stop trying to rehabilitate Bush, and justifying the horror of the Iraq war. You don't need to do that to criticize Putin.

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Bruh, never in my wildest dreams did I think comparing Bush to Putin in 2023 could be construed as me trying to rehabilitate bush's image, I'm literally 💀Lemmy be wilding out, I love it here.

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[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

It seems to me at least that this is a war to eradicate a people as evidenced by Russia targeting schools, abducting children and brutally killing civilians. Make no mistake, Putin intends to end Ukraine not just by annexing territory, but by erasing their entire history and cultural identity.

[-] TheBigMike@lemm.ee 49 points 1 year ago

Oh damn, an article containing a topic about Russia and Cuba. I hope this post will contain a civil conversation about the topic without it derailing into a giant fighting pit about the United States.

[-] Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 1 year ago

Surprise surprise bunch of hexbearians doing it.

[-] socsa@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Everyone knows that socialism is when simping for autocrats doing an imperialism. That's definitely not something a reactionary shill would do in bad faith, I'd like to make that clear.

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 13 points 1 year ago

I hope this post will contain a civil conversation about the topic without it derailing into a giant fighting pit about the United States.

Whelp...it was a good thought.

[-] Lmaydev@programming.dev 9 points 1 year ago

My view is is full of filtered by instance blocking and blocked those comments will stay.

But I know what they all say "it's directly America's fault" haha

[-] YeetPics@mander.xyz 10 points 1 year ago

Gotta love how the west is the ultimate villain terrorizing and destroying governments and also at the same time a feeble, weak failed state...

And these hexbears cry and shutdown when you confront them. Weak shits.

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[-] echodot@feddit.uk 35 points 1 year ago

Why would you ever accept any kind of deal which had you go into Russia?

[-] pulaskiwasright@lemmy.ml 89 points 1 year ago
[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 20 points 1 year ago
[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 16 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Oh Nohz! One country has sanctions! Good thing that nearly no one else does or they wouldn't have anyone to trade with!

(Also the US Embargo is dumber than dirt and should have been ended 50 years ago.)

[-] jasondj@ttrpg.network 11 points 1 year ago

When most of the world trades in the US Dollar, America having a trade embargo means a lot.

It doesn’t mean they can’t trade with other countries, but it very much complicates trade, especially with small countries.

Wendover Productions had a pretty good video on the topic recently.

[-] Grayox@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

One Country 💀

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Dennis Reynolds : Well dude, dude, think about it: he's out in the middle of nowhere with some employer he barely knows. You know, he looks around and what does he see? Nothin' but Eastern Europe. "Ahh, there's nowhere for me to run. What am I gonna do, say 'no'?"

Mac : Okay. That... that seems really dark.

Dennis Reynolds : Nah, no it's not dark. You're misunderstanding me, bro.

Mac : I'm-I think I am.

Dennis Reynolds : Yeah, you are, because if the girl said "no" then the answer obviously is "no"...

Mac : No, right.

Dennis Reynolds : But the thing is he's not gonna say "no", he would never say "no" because of the implication.

Mac : ...Now you've said that word "implication" a couple of times. Wha-what implication?

Dennis Reynolds : The implication that things might go wrong for him if he refuses to fight for Russia. Now, not that things are gonna go wrong for him but he's thinkin' that they will.

[-] Anonymousllama@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

Sucks to get drawn into that conflict. On some level surely you'd know going to Russia in war time isn't a smart thing to do.

[-] Nath@aussie.zone 33 points 1 year ago

I went to the USA multiple times while it was engaged in actions in Iraq and Afghanistan. Not once was I issued a gun and forcibly sent to the war zone.

[-] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 14 points 1 year ago

I think that those are unequivalents

[-] Nath@aussie.zone 28 points 1 year ago

Why is that? Russia pitches its invasion of Ukraine as a "Special Military Operation" to its sphere of influence. That sounds similar enough to Combat Operations of the USA in the Middle East.

That's likely the message the kid had. Russia is a massive country, and he's been offered a construction job. I find it plausible that he had no idea he'd be drafted.

[-] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Russia is actively conscripting people. The U.S. has had an entirely 'volunteer' force for 50 years.

[-] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 9 points 1 year ago

I mean from the kid's perspective you're not wrong but from ours, we know that the US doesn't do that. Yes it drafted it citizens quite aggressively but not non-citizens or at least not on the sheer level that Russia is/has been doing.

[-] arcanew@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago

The difference is that the US has a culture where such actions are unacceptable, and there are checks and balances to stop the government from forcing people to fight overseas. Without these, it's certainly possible a US dictator could put illegal immigrants (or anyone) on a plane and send them to fight and die in Ukraine.

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[-] Death_Equity@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Those who do not learn history are doomed to die in a Russian war of aggression against their neighbor, or something.

[-] scytale@lemm.ee 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

$2120 is too low for a year long contract for overseas work even for third world country standards, let alone in a country that is involved in an active war.

[-] Uncle_Bagel@midwest.social 26 points 1 year ago

I think that was a signing bonus, not an annual salary.

[-] nyctre@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

And yet, according to google, that's higher than the average salary in Cuba. Not even minimum.

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[-] bender@insaneutopia.com 17 points 1 year ago

How progressive of Putin.

[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Wouldn’t be surprised if there’s also a ton of North Koreans we never hear about.

[-] qwertyWarlord@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Oops, didn't specify what you'd be building. Trenches of course!

[-] AlexJD@feddit.uk 10 points 1 year ago

I'm not sure that's OSHA compliant...

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