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[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Oh shit I stuff myself with pasta bread and potatoes I must be immortal.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

How much of that is them eating nothing but meat

[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 19 points 1 year ago

fine print reads: paid for by the Bakers United Association.

[-] VeganSchnitzel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Is this a joke or is it actually industry financed? This article doesn't mention that and neither does the freely accesible part of the original study (though I don't have full access).

[-] TigrisMorte@kbin.social 5 points 1 year ago

It is a cynical commentary on unreliability of such reports. Bakers are always cooking up something.

[-] QuaffPotions@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

I'm a little surprised by how much incredulity there is in the comments here. It's amazing that anyone, let alone so many people right now, would think that taking away all the most protective foods (ie., plants in their whole, intact forms, which are almost invariably high carb), and in most cases replacing them with the very substances most strongly associated with our number one killers, cardiovascular disease and cancers, (ie., animal flesh, dairy, and insane amounts of saturated fats), and act surprised when it kills them faster.

https://www.acc.org/latest-in-cardiology/articles/2020/10/07/13/54/very-low-carbohydrate-and-ketogenic-diets-and-cardiometabolic-risk

[-] Blaidd@lemm.ee 11 points 1 year ago

Low carb diets do not neglect vegetables, if you're eating a proper low carb diet then about half of your food volume should be coming from things like broccoli, cauliflower, and spinach. https://www.thekitchn.com/10-vegetables-that-are-lower-in-carbs-than-you-think-253337

Low carb diets still eat about 50-75 grams of carbs a day, and that's a lot of broccoli.

[-] Astroturfed@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

I did a keto diet for about a year. Every meal was about 2/3 veggies. The problem with low carb diets is most people don't do them healthy. They see that certain things are listed as ok to eat and they just eat that and don't follow a balanced regimented diet.

[-] Hardeehar@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's what I try to explain to my friends. Keto can be looked at two ways.

Red keto - mostly meat, eggs, cheese

Green keto - getting a majority of nutrition from vegetables and avocados, etc

The red keto diet isn't as good for you as green keto is.

[-] set_secret@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

The Japan Multi-Institutional Collaborative Cohort Study investigated the relationship between dietary carbohydrate and fat intakes and the risk of mortality in the Japanese population[1]. The study found that:

  • An unfavorable association with mortality was observed for low-carbohydrate intake in men and for high-carbohydrate intake in women[1].

  • High fat intake could be associated with a lower mortality risk in women among Japanese adults with a relatively high carbohydrate intake[2].

  • The Prospective Urban Rural Epidemiology study demonstrated that high-carbohydrate and low-fat intakes were associated with an increase in risk for mortality[3].

  • Extreme dietary habits involving carbohydrates and fats affect life expectancy[4].

  • Men with high fat intake had a higher risk for cancer mortality; the multivariable-adjusted HR (95% CI) for ≥35% was 1.79 (1.11-2.90) compared with 20%-<25% [5].

the study suggests that extreme dietary habits, particularly those involving carbohydrates and fats, can affect life expectancy in the Japanese population. It is important to consider these findings when making dietary recommendations and promoting a balanced diet for optimal health.

Citations: [1] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37271417/ [2] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0022316623721986 [3] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0022316623721986 [4] https://omniaeducation.com/news/extreme-dietary-habits-for-carbohydrates-fats-affect-life-expectancy-findings-from-a-large-scale-cohort-study-in-japan/2452354/ [5] https://www.researchgate.net/publication/371268749_Dietary_carbohydrate_and_fat_intakes_and_risk_of_mortality_in_the_Japanese_population_the_Japan_Multi-Institutional_Collaborative_Cohort_Study [6] https://jn.nutrition.org/article/S0022-3166(23)72198-6/pdf

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

But what if you're not Japanese? I know you can extrapolate out generally, but it's one of the most ethnically homogeneous countries. We know different genetic traits can play a large impact on dietary needs. So it's a shame this isn't a more diverse country like some countries or parts of North and south America or some countries in Africa.

[-] set_secret@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'd say extreme dieting issues would apply to all homosapians given the bottle neck at most we're like 6th or 7th cousins or something. so we're actually all very genetically similar.

[-] Nonameuser678@aussie.zone 5 points 1 year ago

I would have thought it would be the opposite but there you go.

[-] redballooon@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

Do you consume a lot of influencer output on the topic?

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