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submitted 21 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) by fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/buyeuropean@feddit.uk

Supports shipping to:

  • Netherlands (no shipping required)
  • UK (no shipping required)
  • Germany
  • Austria
  • Norway (no shipping required)
  • Finland (no shipping required)
  • Belgium
  • Romania (no shipping required)

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Here's their promise to never use forced labour for their cocoa.

There's also the Tony's open chain: a pledge by many companies (not just eu, also us) to use only ethically sourced cocoa. The companies are: here

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[-] bluelander@lemmy.ml 14 points 14 hours ago

I love Tony's, but they're also reportedly higher in lead content than other brands.

https://www.consumerreports.org/health/food-safety/lead-and-cadmium-in-dark-chocolate-a8480295550/

Valrhona is a solid non-American brand pick from the list of safer chocolate and they're B-Corp certified. I believe their parents company is French.

When it comes to chocolate you're often forced to pick your poison, so to speak.

[-] ferret36 1 points 9 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

What's b corp certified?

[-] Tetragrade@leminal.space 7 points 12 hours ago

This is for dark chocolate only, and the article has them listed as one of the lowest lead brands. Crazy that they're all so high though, WTF!

[-] bluelander@lemmy.ml 3 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

A fair point! Didn't even occur to me since I only bother with the dark stuff lol

They're the lowest listed of the "high lead content" category. So kind of the best of the worst for it, I suppose.

[-] AlecSadler@sh.itjust.works 5 points 13 hours ago

TIL chocolate can have lead...jfc

[-] Lasagna@lemmy.ml 41 points 20 hours ago

I was under the impression that Tony’s is working towards a chocolate industry without child labor and forced labor. But the issue is quite complex and they’re not there yet.

Not saying they’re bad. It seems that they’re doing what they can and according to their website they “lead by example”. But I’m not sure if they make any promises about a 100% child labor / forced labor free supply chain at this moment.

The above could be outdated, maybe they’ve achieved their objectives for their own supply chain already. But I can’t find it on their website atm.

[-] Bldck@beehaw.org 30 points 20 hours ago

Previously they claimed no slave labor for many years.

They audited their supply chain every year, but eventually found that no matter the claims of their suppliers and auditors, they were finding instances of child labor.

So they’ve updated their stance and are actively working to change the industry

Here’s an article from 2022 covering the issue

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[-] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 13 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

I think it used to say "as little slavery as possible" or something like that but I don't see that written out anymore, just implied.

From the inside of one I just opened:

Also

lead by example

https://www.consumerreports.org/health/food-safety/lead-and-cadmium-in-dark-chocolate-a8480295550/

mfw

[-] StarlingDE@feddit.org 2 points 12 hours ago

It used to say "slave free" (yes, without a hyphen because apparently they know better than 4 translators) but now it says they try to be as slave free as possible.

[-] YarHarSuperstar@lemmy.world 1 points 11 hours ago

It actually doesn't even say that anymore, it's even more vague now. Thats what I was trying to show with the picture

[-] adj16@lemmy.world 5 points 18 hours ago

Did you also learn this information from John Oliver like me?

[-] Lasagna@lemmy.ml 6 points 18 hours ago

No I think they were pretty open about it themselves. Don’t watch John Oliver tbh 😅.

[-] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 16 hours ago

He does a great job but it's all USA focused content

[-] durfenstein@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

Aside from the activism stuff, Tonys just tastes how good chocolate should taste.

[-] TheGiantKorean@lemmy.world 17 points 19 hours ago

As an American: you guys eat American chocolate?

[-] neo2478@sh.itjust.works 18 points 19 hours ago

I mean there is also a big difference between American brands in the US and the EU. Last time I went to the US, I brought back snickers, Twix, and KitKats. Then I bought the EU alternative and set up a double blinded taste test with my friends.

Without fail we all immediately were able to tell them apart. The American version was chalky and tasted like pure sugar. The EU version, albeit also nowhere near Tony quality and still very sweet, was much higher quality and you could taste the individual components of the candy. It was not just a sweet punch in the face.

[-] cocolowlander@feddit.nl 6 points 16 hours ago

I worked in a Nabisco factory a decade ago in the US making Oreo.

They've consistently looked for cost cutting measures to reduce the amount of cocoa powder (expensive input) put into the product. What happened when I was there was they would look for a new vendor that would offer stronger cocoa flavor profile per kg and then use that as a justification to cut the amount of cocoa powder in the product. To mask it they would amp up the sweetness.

In a blind test, a normal people can't tell the difference year to year, but if you compare it to what it was ten years ago, there would be a noticeable difference.

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[-] TheImpressiveX@lemm.ee 6 points 16 hours ago

I discovered Tony's Chocoloney a few months ago, and I really love it. I can get it at my local supermarket as well. Great to see them on here!

[-] TTH4P@lemm.ee 23 points 21 hours ago

Also it's pretty good. I didn't know I liked milk chocolate, because Hershey's is disgusting. Tony's is objectively a better tasting product.

[-] Decq@lemmy.world 28 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Well there's your problem, in the Netherlands (and other places) Hershey milk 'chocolate' isn't legally chocolate. It needs at least 35% cacao to be called chocolate. It would be called 'Cacao fantasy' here instead. So no wonder you think it's shit chocolate, cause it isn't chocolate to begin with

[-] TTH4P@lemm.ee 6 points 20 hours ago

For sure, that's why it tastes like vomit.

[-] Jessica@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 16 hours ago

Hershey's chocolate has butyric acid, which is also found in vomit. The acid is allegedly a byproduct, but it helps stabilize the chocolate and prevent it from melting. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/hersheys-chocolate-tastes-like-vomit_l_60479e5fc5b6af8f98bec0cd

[-] AFKBRBChocolate@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago

I don't know if it's an urban legend, but the story I had always heard was that chocolate became very scarce during the war, as milk was rationed, but Hershey's figured out how to make decent tasting chocolate from spoiled milk, which was easier to get since no one wanted it. The war went on long enough that Americans eventually expected chocolate to taste like that, so after it ended they reformulated to keep the signature taste while using fresh milk.

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[-] then_three_more@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

My cat's sick is a better tasting product than Hershey's

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[-] kora@sh.itjust.works 13 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

I love Tony's as much as the next guy. However, be aware that a test conducted in 2022 found high levels of lead in Chocolonely Dark Chocolate variant.

Consistent, long-term exposure to even small amounts of heavy metals can lead to a variety of health problems. The danger is greatest for pregnant people and young children because the metals can cause developmental problems, affect brain development, and lead to lower IQ, says Tunde Akinleye, the CR food safety researcher who led this testing project.

[-] Kualdir@feddit.nl 17 points 21 hours ago

FYI: Check if whatever brand you like also works with Tony's for their supply chain. For example Jumbo (NL supermarket) sources their chocolate from Tony's and there's quite a lot more partners.

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[-] SatanClaus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 16 hours ago

As an American this is also what I buy. Good stuff. Support them 💪

[-] bartvbl@lemmy.world 7 points 19 hours ago

For Norway: you can buy these at Normal. Much cheaper than getting them shipped.

[-] jbk@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 16 hours ago

what an abnormal store name lol

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[-] petrescatraian@libranet.de 3 points 16 hours ago

@fxomt found it in my local supermarket too

[-] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 16 hours ago

Romania, right? I'll add it to the "no shipping required" list, thanks!

[-] weremacaque@lemmy.world 2 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

I keep seeing the bars around and I’m very tempted to try it, but I’m allergic lmao. It’ll probably be a lot better than sneaking a Hershey’s though.

Maybe one day they’ll make a carob one.

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[-] fxomt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

big nestle, they got angered by that "without child slavery" part 😤

[-] Vinny_93@lemmy.world 18 points 20 hours ago

I didn't downvote but I will add a note to Tony's.

First of all: I applaud their mission and every company in the world should be working without slavery of any kind.

Because Tony's is so open about their sourcing and making a big deal about being 100% slave free, they are an easy target for organizations checking their claims. There have been a couple of moments in time where Tony's has been challenged, the most recent one being 2021, where they have been removed from the list of ethical chocolate companies by the American company Slave Free Chocolate, because they collaborated with Barry Callebaut.

Now, to expand on 'collaboration', here: Tony's buys their cocoa very transparently, from farmers who do not employ children, paid or otherwise. Then, to process this cocoa they need an efficient factory and they use one in Antwerp, Belgium. This factory also processes the cocoa from Barry Callebaut.

Tony's doesn't really care, of course, about being taken off the list by this company. They know they are ethical enough by their own measure, which is still leagues ahead of most.

Source in Dutch.

The point here being that one might read one headline or the other, refuse to go into any depth and form their opinion. Now any time they read Tony's all they remember is 'they are not as holy as they make themselves out to be'. Hence they'll just downvote this any time they glance over it.

Or it might be Big Chocolate, idk.

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[-] Mvlad88@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago

Tony's is great and tastes awesome, but the real question here is, are we european really eating that much non-EU sweets? Maybe the occasional Snickers or Mars, but all the stuff that I tasted and was from across the pond was either brutally sweet or had no flavor at all.

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