[-] imperious_melange@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 minute ago

But no potatoes ಥ⁠╭⁠╮⁠ಥ

[-] imperious_melange@lemmy.zip 1 points 52 minutes ago

Time will tell.

[-] imperious_melange@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

The cases that I've seen are very positive. One patient described it as living life in black and white and someone turned on the color aka there was a new depth to their experience of life. Generally it's not like a lobotomy. Also useful for drug resistant depression in some cases.

[-] imperious_melange@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

There are really only four scenarios. They stop fighting and forge a lasting peace, one wipes out the other, they continue to fight till the end of time, or both get wiped out.

[-] imperious_melange@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 hour ago

That was never my argument. Even after WWII there were the Nuremberg trials. Justice should always be there for anyone who committed a war crime regardless of which side of the war they were on and regardless of which country.

[-] imperious_melange@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

I mean there have been a few use cases beyond illegal business.

[-] imperious_melange@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago

I mean if it's because of some untreatable issue, yeah I guess there would only be so much to do about it. Sidebar, I thought transcranial magnetic stimulation was useful for some forms of autism but I really haven't heard much about it in a long time. Maybe its efficacy was questionable.

[-] imperious_melange@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Time will reveal all things. As of now there is no way to know between us which is correct and which is not. I suspect more violence won't aid in bringing lasting peace and that's more violence from both sides, not just one or the other.

The way things are looking currently scenario two seems to be becoming more likely short of external help. If enough assistance is given to stem Israeli aggression the fight will likely continue later which would bring us to scenario three and possibly at that time back to scenario two.

Now for the mystery scenario four, aka both get wiped out. It is very possible if we reach ASI and it goes rogue or there's a biosphere collapse due to humanities continued destruction of the global environment. I don't assume both would get wiped out anytime soon by a third party so I'm mostly assuming it would happen through some global event. Something apocalyptic. In that case all this suffering would have been for nothing quite unfortunately. Both parties lose.

[-] imperious_melange@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

It's a hypothetical. In reality there's only so many scenarios here. The fighting stops and they work out a peace agreement. One side fully wipes out the other. The fighting continues as is until the end of time. I personally wish for the first scenario, but it seems you think only the second or third scenario are possible as of now. I guess there's also the scenario where both sides get wiped out.

[-] imperious_melange@lemmy.zip 4 points 2 hours ago

Wasn't the point of crypto to actually be used as a currency?

[-] imperious_melange@lemmy.zip 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

I'm not arguing really anything you are saying beyond one thing. When I said I hope not one more person dies from war and everyone on earth can know peace I meant everyone. That infers that any aggressor stops their aggression and that we start working together to know peace. I feel that if the fighting actually stopped (and yes I am aware there have been false ceasefires and bad faith peace talks) and I mean actually stopped right now this moment that trading that for killing more people would be unfortunate. It would be of a greater service to those who come after us to forge peace so that they may know peace.

It's a philosophical question but if you personally had the choice over actual lasting peace and wellbeing vs killing more people which will likely not bring actual lasting peace and wellbeing (may even condemn many more generations on both sides to suffering) what would you choose for yourself and future generations?

[-] imperious_melange@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 hours ago

Somehow more satanic than satan? If one's goal is to rebel against Yahweh then forsaking one's soul given to them by Yahweh would be fitting.

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