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[-] xmunk@sh.itjust.works 102 points 9 months ago

Even some expected to be in Biden's corner [including] liberal comedian Jon Stewart.

What. The. Fuck.

Jon Stewart is in Biden's corner, he's just being honest that age is a concern. If you watch his segment you'd see he dropped a big steaming dump on Trump.

And, as an aside, to avoid having your candidate critiqued for their age just fucking run a different candidate.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 31 points 9 months ago

People are extremely bad at understanding what Jon said. It fucking sucks. Sorry, Democrats, you're not going to win over voters by demanding they pretend your stinky candidates don't stink. That's not how this works.

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 months ago

And, as an aside, to avoid having your candidate critiqued for their age just fucking run a different candidate.

This is what bugs me the most, their instinct is to get worried not to you know, do something because they are the ones behind the wheel…

Stuff like this convinced me that democrats are not interested to do anything but show that they are following “the correct process”, results be damned.

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[-] MudMan@kbin.social 15 points 9 months ago

Yeah, well, welcome to why you don't talk shit about your candidate during a campaign. Your nuanced point is going to get flattened down to "even his allies are criticising him". Weirdly, this exact quote dismantles his entire monologue there.

The best joke in that entire thing was Klepper accusing him of bothsiderism and asking whether he had saved democracy yet. Because it was poignant. Lampshading it is funny, but it doesn't change the outcome.

Well, second best joke, the best was Ronnie Chieng going to town on potato skins, but that's neither here not there.

[-] rudyharrelson@kbin.social 26 points 9 months ago

I don't think it's fair to say Stewart shouldn't critique Biden during a campaign just because dishonest talking heads will spin it to their advantage. Someone has to be willing to give an earnest and nuanced take that doesn't ignore valid criticisms of their own side. That's having integrity. And we need more of it, not less.

If Stewart had ignored all the criticisms of Biden during the show, the talking heads would have just spun some other show's takes like they always do. They're gonna do it regardless of how honest Stewart is cause that's their job.

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[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 10 points 9 months ago

Having allies doesn't mean you're immune from criticism. The entire concept is dumb.

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[-] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 88 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

This logic destroys my fucking brain cells.

And trump/republicans would???!? What a fucking joke of an article to push lmao.

A reminder trump is a few years younger than Biden. Not by much.

[-] FadoraNinja@lemmy.world 31 points 9 months ago

If Trump drops dead from being old, bully for us. If Biden drops dead but Trump doesn't we are fucked. That is the issue and risk. That is why we want a younger candidate. Why take the risk when you can avoid i?

[-] hydrospanner@lemmy.world 41 points 9 months ago

Why?

Because Biden is still the person with the best odds to defeat Trump in an election.

That's really all there is to it.

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[-] UristMcHolland@lemmy.world 9 points 9 months ago

This doesn't make any sense to me. If Biden dies and Trump doesn't then we will still have the VP. By the time the next election rolls around, assuming Trump loses, Trump will have already faded into obscurity.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

They're saying that if Biden died right now, President Harris would lose to Trump. Which she almost certainly would.

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[-] thesprongler@lemmy.world 70 points 9 months ago

Except there is a line of succession for president, whereas trump got to pick RBG'S successor.

[-] Speculater@lemmy.world 32 points 9 months ago

Which of course, was 100% her fault. Holding on to power into your 90s is really fucking stupid.

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[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 62 points 9 months ago

Look, my ONLY goal is to have D’s in leadership because the alternative ushers in a totalitarian fascist hellscape russian client state. If Brandon fucks off to the next life while in office, I don’t care. His replacement won’t be a traitor.

No other consideration carries any weight.

[-] livus@kbin.social 12 points 9 months ago

Look, my ONLY goal is to have D’s in leadership

DAE read this as dicks in leadership?

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

Its an election of Hindenburg vs Hitler. It doesn't matter. By participation you're only giving it legitimacy.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 45 points 9 months ago
[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

Go read up on Hindenburg. He also was the "lesser of two evils". That's the comparison I'm making.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 27 points 9 months ago

False equivalency, fuck off.

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[-] esc27@lemmy.world 44 points 9 months ago

I really wonder how much of this “Biden old” talk is just GOP propaganda.

[-] CosmicTurtle@lemmy.world 22 points 9 months ago

It might be a "broken clock is right twice a day" situation.

Jon Stewart's glorious return to The Daily Show covered this very topic.

Liberals have the right to question our leadership. It's okay for us to wonder if the president has the ability to make good decisions.

The problem is that conservatives won't hear the same questions for their candidate.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 15 points 9 months ago

Liberals have the right to question our leadership.

And those of us to the left of liberals have the right to question the leadership liberals have stuck us with.

[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 16 points 9 months ago

Exactly. You don’t get to have orthodoxy when your party is made up of a massive coalition because of our shitty voting system.

I don’t want to vote for Biden, but I’m gonna. And I reserve the right to be unhappy about it and express this.

But if the Democratic Party wants to be jackboots like the Rs then democracy is already dead here.

[-] Pyr_Pressure@lemmy.ca 18 points 9 months ago

Is it propaganda if it's true? 80 is old as fuck.

Name one other industry or company who would hire an 80 year old. Not saying he can't do the job, just saying 80 is fucking old to still be working and it's a valid concern.

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[-] lingh0e@sh.itjust.works 10 points 9 months ago

I had literally never seen this dumbass RBG comparison until a day or so ago. Suddenly, in the past few days, I've seen multiple people use RBG as an argument against Biden.

This is absolutely astroturfing.

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[-] MudMan@kbin.social 43 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yeah, I'm confused about this take. RBG should have stepped down because by not doing it she created the opportunity for Trump to tilt the majorities in the Supreme Court. Notably, nobody had the balls to criticise her for it, even after she died and made that exact thing happen.

If Biden dies in office Trump doesn't get to pick the vice president. And somehow he still gets constant crap despite the other guy being just as old.

We're doing "but her emails" again. I thought we weren't gonna do "but her emails" again.

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[-] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 29 points 9 months ago

Manufactured outrage. It’s not like he could legally do another term after he’s elected in ‘24.

He’s extremely competent, ethical, and experienced.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Genocide Joe is the most ethical president the US had in a while.

Edit: to all the people trying to paint him as being in the "hot seat" (wtf lol), he wanted and worked towards this for a long time now

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4962369/user-clip-joe-biden-israel-usa-invent-israel-protect-interest-region

[-] Tristaniopsis@aussie.zone 19 points 9 months ago

Decades of presidents on both sides of the aisle have supported and sent arms to Israel.

It’s unfortunate (for everyone, especially the poor Palestinians) that Netenyahu is such a fucking creep and sleazeball that he manufactured this whole thing to distract from his deep shittiness. Biden happened to be the guy in the hot seat.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 15 points 9 months ago

What do you mean he "happened to be the guy in the hot seat"? He gleefully sent more bombs during an ongoing genocide, no one really forced his hand did they?

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[-] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago

Genocide is an american problem, not a presidential one lmao.

[-] mathemachristian@lemm.ee 11 points 9 months ago

It's baked into the very soul of the nation.

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I'm not sure what "mistake" Biden could be repeating here. If he dies in office, Harris becomes President.

If they want to argue that if he dies before the election that leaves the Democrats with no clear candidate which would lead to a Trump win they need to be more clear about that.

Harris, undoubtably, would see herself as the candidate as the sitting President, which makes sense, see Johnson - 1964, but her unpopularity even among her own staff would make her unelectable.

But that's not a Biden problem and that's not the same mistake Ginsberg made.

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[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 24 points 9 months ago

Funny how they never seem to mention trumps age even though they are almost the same age...

[-] TIMMAY@lemmy.world 17 points 9 months ago
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[-] Maggoty@lemmy.world 16 points 9 months ago

That's not how the presidency works? If he dies, the Senate can't hold the presidency open until they place a Republican in there. Kamala Harris just steps into the position.

But then again, this is Business Insider.

[-] ivanafterall@kbin.social 16 points 9 months ago

RBG was a Supreme Court Justice with a lifetime appointment.

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