8chan and 4chan were instrumental in creating the disease that is gamergate and the subsequent online shitheaps it produced. Including but not limited to Trump's term.
Wasn't Twitter instrumental in enabling January 6th?
I believe it helped with Arab Spring aswell and most people argue that was a good thing.
To be fair, I stopped visiting 4chan after seeing a gif of a German shepherd being hit in the face with a shovel, so...
Didn’t need to hear that. Fuck whoever did that.
Yeah... Now who is going to take care of the German sheep??
/s abusing animals is cruel and horrible
...Apparently the AFD party?
Seriously though, fuck whoever did that with sand and gravel lube.
i spent too much time on 4chan growing up; it's the most in depth and fascinating and insane glimpse into the human psyche we have available. you see someone post the worst evils imaginable then people replying to that post with better and more cutting humor than anything aired on TV
Yeah I was on there a lot in the mid 00s and stopped going on it after the scientology protests. The site basically created internet humor as we know it and I was enough of a loser at the time to be highly online. There was something very accepting about the site in a weird way, and I'm not the sort of person you'd expect would have been a b-slur.
Met a friend's partner recently and she said something funny in this oddly familiar way... the type of person I'd least suspect, but yup, a fellow mid 00s b-slur.
Why is there so much fearmongering around 4chan? Everyone that doesn't use it seems to think of it as an anomaly; when it is nothing but a somewhat "radical" (that too only some boards) social site. Also banning & doing something along those lines to the users of 4chan is the shittiest idea of all time.
Because it and 8chan are racist shitholes that have produced numerous mass murderers, most notably the Christchurch murderer that killed 51 people at a mosque.
I don't think such sites "produce" mass murderers; they certainly contribute to the accleeration of their extremity--I don't deny that--but no site can "produce" mass murderers, there has to be some preeminent malignity present in the person.
4chan is so full of teenage racists, incels and general dipshits that I can't help but think anyone who defends it is also a racist, incel, or generally a dipshit who hasn't graduated high school yet. Posts like the OP here are the exception, not the rule.
Yep, 4chan is the Nazi bar of the Internet, and cherry picking an example of innocent shitposting means nothing.
It had its moments, twenty years ago, but all the worthwhile anons left ages ago.
There's even a fairly famous quote from a 4channer about it.
"Any community that gets its laughs by pretending to be idiots will eventually be flooded by actual idiots who mistakenly believe they're in good company." -Descartes né Anon
Of course, Anon still missed the real lesson.
There are always far, far, fewer people "just joking around" than the good people in the room want to assume.
Some of the boards are legit helpful and good too. You can stay away from /r9k/ or /b/ or /pol/ and be fine.
Oof I used to be a regular on r9k and now I cringe so hard about it. Thank God it was anonymous.
I was going through a tough time and the people there accepted me and engaged with my posts. In hindsight I think people just connected with my anger, but the venting was helpful.
At some point a friend saw my laptop and said "holy shit you're asking 4chan for advice, hahaha what the fuck is wrong with you" and she laughed until she was wheezing, and I never went back on again.
The /tg/ board was the source of some of the greatest tabletop RPG content I ever saw in the 2010s, really great discussions and whole homebrew systems born out of threads that just pitch cool ideas. Of course it came with the same veneer of snark and shock comments as the rest of 4chan but that was on every site in the 2010s. I haven't been back there in a long while so I can't speak to it these days.
I still remember that story about how someone's boyfriend was radicalized by 4chan and they noticed by "checking his 4chan account" and I think talked about PMs lol
People are dumbass normies who fear anyone slightly different than the mould. You don’t have facebook and instagram? Fucking weird. You don’t know the latest influencer trend? Outcast. You think capitalism is evil and the normalcy is harmful to society? Terrorist.
Scary how many people in here are anti free speech. Yes, they're stupid, cancerous, lot of white supremacists, and all the scum and villany etc , but like, the point of free speech is that you're allowed to say that shit.
Make a threat? Absolutely, track IPs and investgate logs, lawful actions against unlawful acts. But to flat out ban every one you disagree with? Disgusting. And you should be ashamed of it.
Any kind of freedom ends were you are violating the freedom of someone else. Spitting hatred against women and minorities has nothing to do with freedom of speech.
As much as I dislike people spitting hatred at women, LGBTQIA+ folks, and POCs, this is still freedom of speech. You don't have to enjoy it, you don't have to listen to it, and you're certainly free to remove these people from your personally owned spaces. But it doesn't change the fact that people should be allowed to say whatever the fuck they want, otherwise we literally are punishing people for thought crimes and edgy jokes.
People should be judged for their actions, not their words. Words don't actually mean anything without action behind them.
I'm a gay man, and I've definitely given out the occasional f slur pass. Why? Because I honestly think it's funny as fuck when my best friend of 20 years calls me that. He doesn't hate me, he knows and loves my partner like a sibling, and he is my brother. It would be so fucked if he got in some kind of actual trouble for that...
The dangerous thing with speech is the ability to radicalize people. I mostly agree with your comment but it's a more complex topic than "until you don't do something bad you're fine".
So if someone says "let's kill all women, gays and jews" that's totally fine for you?
Saying hateful, dumbass shit doesn't violate anyone's freedom. Denying them their right to congregate, get equal service in business, have bodily autonomy, etc. does. However, speech alone is not enough to equate to action, in most cases.
Saying hateful, dumbass shit doesn’t violate anyone’s freedom
That depends entirely on your definition of freedom.
If someone were to punch me, it would violate my freedom from being punched/ bodily harm.
This is illegal in the US.
If someone were to insult me, it would violate my freedom from being insulted (maybe psychological harm).
This is legal in the US but illegal elsewhere.
speech alone is not enough to equate to action
Speech is not something that happens to you, it's something you actively do. It is always an action.
the point of free speech is that you're allowed to say that shit.
No, it isn't
This is the internet - please desist from being reasonable and choose a side. Many thanks.
Freedom of speech works out when everyone's speech is equal. But in the real world, it isn't. if it were, the minority wouldn't have to fight for their rights and the laws would apply the same to the majority.
"free speech" is clickbait for the racists, created by racists to drown out the opposing voices of minority while calling it equality.
Your "freedom of speech" was added in the constitution on December 15, 1791. It took almost 200 years for the cilvil rights movement in 1950s for the black people to have equal rights.
Don't flaunt it like it has any shred of importance beyond what the majority of the US population uses it for. And it's to be racist bigots.
Keep concern trolling though
It is true that when I see something from 4chan that I don't understand, I have to approach it with the well earned assumption that it is somehow racist or fascist. This snake thing... I can't just assume it's shitposting. With 4chan it could be anything.
Says the person with a paid account of the dumster fire.
The post has no date other than the 4chins post date, so it could easily have been from before PedoGuy took over and torched the place.
May 3rd, 2023. She's giving money to a eugenics supporter.
Also, twitter was always awful. Musk just took the mask off.
Can somebody explain what I'm looking at in that post?
All I can make out is that the snake connects between the pictures.
I thought maybe that created some offensive bigger picture, but I don't see it.
that's exactly the point of that thread, there's no need for a reason in everything, sometimes people are silly and enjoy being silly just for the snake of being silly
80% of 4chan is shitposts with no hidden meaning.
The remaining 10% is people dog-whistling to each other through shit-posts, hoping one will slide into the 80% undetected.
And 10% horrible things that the janitors have to clean up.
No offense but if you think there's any kind of subtlety on 4chan I dare you to browse /b for two minutes. No dogwhistles, just regular, very racist and antisemitic whistles.
On 4chan it is safe to assume something is fascist unless you can 100% understand it is not.
Also, 80% of commenters on iFunny. That shit heap needs to be nuked.
Day 279: Lemmy advocating for full on fascism on worldwide scale. Again.
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