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[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 68 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

$7.25 Club of Shame (Federal Minimum)

Alabama

Georgia

Idaho

Indiana

Iowa

Kansas

Kentucky

Louisiana

Mississippi

New Hampshire

North Caroline

North Dakota

Oklahoma

Pennsylvania

South Carolina

Tennessee

Texas

Utah

Wisconsin

Wyoming

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago

And before anyone says "no one pays those wages anymore," it's true that I didn't get paid $7.25 an hour when I first moved back to Indiana about 10 years ago.

I was paid $7.75 an hour. From a TV station. To shoot live news and sports, meaning traveling in weather no matter how dangerous for regional basketball games and seeing lots of dead bodies, then going back and editing two news shows every night before heading out again to shoot the next car crash.

And when I was up for a promotion, I was told I didn't have the right attitude. Because my attitude was things like, "it's blizzarding out right now. I really don't think it's safe for me to drive 50 miles down a 2-lane highway at night." rather than, "sir yes sir!"

I left that job as soon as I could. To the other TV station in town. For a $10 an hour job making commercials.

These are jobs in L.A., where I used to live, that would pay you a high five-figure salary if not a six-figure one. And the weather is a lot safer to drive in.

Yep, Indiana sucks when it comes to pay. I'm sure those other states are just as bad.

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Attitude and wages have a direct correlation. As an employer, you pay for the attitude you get.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

You would think so, but the other people in the same job were gung-ho for it. It was bizarre. And I basically spent my evenings documenting tragedies when it wasn't sports (and I hate sports), so it took a serious psychological toll, which it should have for anyone who wasn't the apparent psychopaths I was working with.

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[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 58 points 11 months ago

...I make about $20 per hour as a surgical tech, and the cheapest apartments that are within the on-call response time radius of the hospital and don't come with a realistic chance of getting shot while walking to or from the car; plus utilities, food, gas, etc... and there's almost nothing left.

I could stretch it out a little by eating rice for every meal, but $7.50 per hour wouldn't even cover rent. Splitting it with a roommate who also makes $7.50 per hour might just barely cover rent.

You'd need like 5 people sharing a single bedroom apartment and a car just have a roof over their head and food in their stomach.

...meanwhile we have oligarchs that make so much money that the number of dollars is literally beyond our brain's ability to process.

We're way overdue for guillotine day.

[-] HotDogFingies@kbin.social 49 points 11 months ago

I have nothing intelligent or insightful to say. I just fucking hate this country.

[-] RGB3x3@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

That's okay. Me too!

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[-] HopingForBetter@kbin.social 26 points 11 months ago

"The 20 states where the baseline wage will remain at $7.25 an hour are primarily located in the South and Midwest, ranging from Alabama to Wisconsin. "
So, the states you thought weren't getting the raise are the states that aren't getting the raise, except Florida apparently!?

[-] xpinchx@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

If you're making minimum look into operations/warehousing. It's hard work but I literally can't get people to show up for less than $25/hr. Suburbs of Chicago tho.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Manufacturing company I work for starts at a minimum of $20/hr for the lowest role, and that's our nationwide lowest pay.

We are constantly hiring

[-] RickyRigatoni@lemmy.ml 3 points 11 months ago

Where would I go to find warehouse jobs?

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[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

They forgot Massachusetts. Yeah, we’re not raising minimum wage next year but it’s already $15/hr. We deserve to be listed as one of the ~~six~~ seven states with minimum wage twice the federal level

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago
[-] notannpc@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Who’s getting a raise? No one probably. It won’t be enough to compensate for the lost wages to corporate greed “inflation”.

Still think we should just put all elected officials on the national minimum wage and watch how fast workers lives get better.

[-] Asafum@feddit.nl 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"You work a minimal effort job you get minimum wage."

Explain to me again why I'm seeing machinists and web development jobs being posted for fucking $16/hr when that's minimum wage?

Why are people who literally save fucking lives getting taco bell wages?

I love how there's always a quote to justify shit wages that just completely flies in the face of reality.

I'd say minimal effort is simply owning a thing and paying other people to do the work for you. Sorry that making phone calls is so much work for you...

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 7 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Why are people who literally save fucking lives getting taco bell wages?

In California, at least, the people who save lives will be guaranteed at least $1/hour more than what the Taco Bell employees are guaranteed in 2024.

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[-] JairJacom@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

The increases will boost the baseline pay to at least $16 an hour in three states: California, New York, and Washington. In 22 states.

Not enough for those high-cost cities.

I just heard on the radio this morning that a newly elected South American president raised the baseline to a 2%. This percent means $460 a month!

[-] LemmyKnowsBest@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

fast food like McDonald's and Jack in the Box and Burger King and Panera bread workers in California will have minimum wage of $20.

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[-] iAmTheTot@kbin.social 9 points 11 months ago

The increases will boost the baseline pay to at least $16 an hour in three states: California, New York and Washington. In 22 states, the new minimum wages will take effect on January 1. However, Nevada and Oregon's new rates will go into effect on July 1, while Florida's will increase on September 30.

By contrast. workers in 20 states will still be subject to the federal minimum wage, which has stood at $7.25 an hour since 2009, when it was last increased.

[-] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

I love how the article doesn't actually bother breaking out the minimum wage by state so you have to go searching if you actually want to know.

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 11 months ago

What, you expect reporters to…report? /s

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[-] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

States raising the minimum wage in 2024

Here are the states that are boosting their minimum wages in 2024, along with the new baseline pay that will take effect next year. Most of the states will increase their baseline wage beginning in January, with increases in Florida, Nevada and Oregon going into effect later in 2024.

Alaska: $11.73

Arizona: $14.35

California: $16

Colorado: $14.42

Connecticut: $15.69

Delaware: $13.25

Florida: $13

Hawaii: $14

Illinois: $14

Maine: $14.15

Maryland: $15

Michigan: $10.33

Minnesota: $10.85

Missouri: $12.30

Montana: $10.30

Nebraska: $12

Nevada: $12

New Jersey: $15.13

New York: $16

Ohio: $10.45

Oregon: $14.20 plus an adjustment for inflation (TBD)

Rhode Island: $14

South Dakota: $11.20

Vermont: $13.67

Washington: $16.28 

It was at the end of the article.

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[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

Republicans care SO MUCH about Workers that they aren't Raising their Wages!

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[-] shasta@lemm.ee 8 points 11 months ago

Worth mentioning that Florida passed a law a couple years ago that has been raising the minimum wage by $1/hr every year until we get to $15/hr. Slowly is better than not at all. Nice to see Florida not last for once.

[-] ElectricCattleman@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I wish most/all laws worked this way. We should be aiming for incremental changes over time instead of big bang ones that get undone after the next election.

Hell, for minimum wage though, it should always change based on cost of living as it continues to increase over time.

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[-] GenePull@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Minimum wage is a scam. When there is a floor employers aim for that instead of having to compete. It is like pre-collusion around wages.

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 21 points 11 months ago

It seems like collusion because a lot of employers stick there. But that's only because those employers would be paying you less if they legally could. Companies can always pay up for better work if they value it.

[-] forrgott@lemm.ee 18 points 11 months ago

Umm, what?

So, without minimum wage, the floor would be zero. If corpos aim for the floor, by your own argument they would absolutely pay less if it was legal.

What are you smoking?? And why aren't you sharing?!

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[-] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 16 points 11 months ago

Today is your day to shine. You have received the dumbest first day on lemmy award.

You mentioned the floor is what they're aiming for but without a minimum wage the floor is zero. You fucking potato.

[-] Killer_Tree@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

You can disagree without being rude you absolute muppet.

[-] Bo7a@lemmy.ca 4 points 11 months ago

I save polite disagreement for valid discussions.

[-] MrPoopyButthole@lemm.ee 15 points 11 months ago

You do realize that anyone could still pay a higher wage to compete right?

You must be confusing it with maximum wage, which is the opposite and not a thing.

[-] NatakuNox@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

That's not how any of this works.

[-] AnonTwo@kbin.social 10 points 11 months ago

Fucking idiot. We literally put those laws in place because of history. Read a book.

[-] Cowbee@lemm.ee 10 points 11 months ago

Capitalism itself is the scam, ownership is fake justification for exploitation and suggests a false level of meritocracy. Capitalists aren't Capitalists because they are smarter or more competent, but because they have money, and can grow that money in the M-C-M' circuit.

Minimum wage is an absolute necessity because Capitalists would abuse their power to pay as little as possible otherwise. The only places a minimum wage are proven to be unnecessary is in extremely unionized countries where Unions have all of the bargaining power they need.

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[-] Yamainwitch@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Minimum wage means if they could get away with paying you less they would, but if it weren't for those pesky laws. But let's be real here, they already get away with huge amounts of wage theft, especially for minimum wage workers. The minimum was always meant to be the minimum amount needed to live. It's just corporations/oligarchs wanted the masses more desperate because they are easier to exploit. Oh there's middle class, and lower class and upper class. Those are "UnSkIlLeD" labor jobs, they don't deserve a living wage. It's always been a war against the working class and they have us fighting with ourselves over this shit. NWBTCW

[-] BigMacHole@lemm.ee 5 points 11 months ago

You: Employers aim for the floor! Also you: The floor should be 0!

[-] Volidon@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

You really don't know how capitalism works do you?

[-] GenePull@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

You all are so short sighted there isn't even a conversation to be had. Try this https://youtu.be/A-I4Vsl-AEg lots of background but you can skip to 15min

The way I see it is higher minimum wage will just increase inflation which is already ridiculous. It would be better to tax/cap corporate profits, limit ceo compensation to 10 or 20x the lowest paid employee's salary etc. People not earning a living wage is a symptom of broader issues, not the problem itself. By manipulating this symptom there are knock on effects that will just make things worse.

[-] aniki@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

Oh they got a youtube video!! I'm totally convinced!! Youtube!!! Youtube everyone!!!

They got a youtube video everyone!! DEBATE OVER

[-] TragicNotCute@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Read a fucking book. Exploitation will occur if you allow the free market to fully set the price of labor.

“In the making of the wages contract the individual laborer is always at a disadvantage. He has something which he is obliged to sell and which his employer is not obliged to take, since he [that is, the employer] can reject single men with impunity“

John Clark

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[-] skydivekingair@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

That belt of white at the bottom… wonder if that area has a name?

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

The shit belt?

[-] the_q@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

The states that could use the higher rate are the states that aren't increasing the rate. I'm shocked.

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