as a motorcyclist, i give all teslas a wide berth and put as much distance between me and them as possible as quickly as possible
That can't be right. Self-driving was, at most, two years away over a decade ago. The world's richest, and therefore smartest since money is a 1:1 proxy for intelligence, could not have been wrong about this. Now, if you'll excuse me, I have to catch the giga-loop to my launch to Mars Base 5 while my digital assistant definitely doesn't delete all my family photos.
Well maybe they shouldn't cheap out and should start using lidars, and not only cameras.
i know people who have BRAGGED to me about how it's driven them home, shit faced drunk!
Problem with these things is they will work 80-90% of the time. Especially in good conditions. But if anything odd happens…
At yet as a pedestrian I’m essentially part of teslas beta testing. I didn’t opt in to being smashed by a fugly as fuck tetrahedron.
Yeah, I demand to be smashed by a hot tetrahedron

Would smash
we also did not opt in to being recorded by these companies. It's different, but it has a long term effect.
We noticed when Musk was promising "Full self driving" to "come out by the end of the year" every year for over a decade now.
I find myself behind self-driving cars nearly 8 hours a day... I'm convinced every company is drastically downplaying how much these cars are remotely operated by humans.
Good thing they told us. Would never have figured it out from all the murder.
Interesting they say that in advance of each public demo, employees "worked long hours mapping routes and training the software on specific hazards to make the company’s self-driving technology appear more capable than it really is*
We know.
Couldn't have happened to a ~~nicer guy~~ bigger fascist asshole.
QUICK! Somebody get this man a trillions dollars!
I cant wait until Elon and Bezos race to develop corporate nuclear "technology"!
Just throwing it out there that nothing about Teslas valuation makes sense^1^ without being first to market with self driving, and with a real moat around it.
1: brain got ahead of the fingers and forgot to write the critical modifier.
Maybe I could understand what you mean if you make a proper sentence from it.
Edited for clarity. I mean that nothing about Tesla's valuation makes sense without them being first to market with self driving, and also some time/ runway to have first mover advantage. Its a valuation famously detached from reality.
And they aren't. From what I've heard their self-driving is bogus, which is also the target of the article.
I think by now if you're still holding TSLA and aren't an index tracker, you've drunk the kool-aid and very little is going to shake you out of it.
From what I understand Tesla is a car company only on the eye of us, in paper Tesla are spyware in wheel and that’s from where the money comes from
Thanks!
Tesla owners: no shit.
Not all unfortunately. Brother in law is very much drinking musk's flavoraid.
No shit Sherlock, maybe read the countless articles about the crashes.
Elon's busy building a Dyson Sphere to host data centers for the multi-planet species' AI needs, stop pestering him.
i saw a cyber cab tooting along today with a brodude behind the wheel. pathetic. they lost the self driving race and utterly failed to catch up, listen to anyone in the company competent to solve the problem, or simply pivot.
Ok, I fucking hate Elon and I will never buy any products that he makes, however Tesla's full self driving appears to be the best in the market right now by a decent margin.
I like Tesla BTW and I'm squarely in their target demographic, but I hate that nazi more.
Who else has good self driving that is close to what Tesla has right now? (Asking in case there is something good I should be looking at buying)
If this is "the best in the market", then none of these things should be on the market.
Unfinished prototype technology should not be allowed to control multi-ton machines on public roads.
It's the best in the US market, maybe, because Tesla and the US government keep out the competition.
Are you unaware of the existence of Waymo? You do realize that Tesla robotaxis have a human handler that follows every car because they aren’t actually self driving right?
Sorry, my statement was in regards to cars i can own myself, not "robo taxies".
I read that Waymo is no better at best. Weymo thinks it’s cheaper not to park their cars and have them drive and zip around residential areas all hours of the day and night instead. They are also prone to accidents as well.
for what its worth, waymos are endemic in my area, and ive certainly seen them misbehave a little and get into janky situations, but i am generally impressed with them overall. i see them doing things good defensive drivers do, for example, slowing down in ambiguous/tricky situations, etc. they seem to be generally working. however i also read somewhere that they have sweatshops full of people tending to them...
Fuck AI
"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.