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[-] Dogiedog64@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago

They aren't doing this out of Altruism, mind you. They know damn well that the world runs on Linux admins, and they want the ecosystem to survive so they can use it as a customer base later.

[-] br0k3nbyt3@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

And Linux should not survive by altruism, but by actual dependency.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

lol, $100k+... HP revenue in 2024 was $53,559,000k.

Dell same year $88,000,000k and Lenovo $69,000,000k, so ~$50B to $90B

I let you calculate the percentage but... I'd guesstimate it's approximately nothing.

[-] laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 3 days ago

Revenue is not operational profit

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Right... which... is why I wrote revenue and not operational profit? Was I unclear? What should I have shared instead? Please feel free to clarify directly with whatever you believe would be better and why, we can all learn.

[-] laz@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 days ago

What is this condescending tone, is this what they call redditor energy

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Were you not condescending? Don't you believe you started this?

You could have said :

  • Revenue is not precise enough, operational profit would be a better metric
  • Operational profit is more representative of the situation and for HP it's [insert value]

or basically anything that prompts a discussion by kindly clarifying.

Instead you basically said "Apples are not oranges" and now you are saying replies are toxic.

[-] bleustenns@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 days ago

This adds nothing to the topic at hand, sorry, but they're right; that kind of snark is super Reddit. No offense ofc

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm not sure you're understanding my perspective so I can make it explicit : I took their comment as snarky, not helpful, trying to make their view as objective without helping me and others understanding why their position was better.

[-] Vinstaal0@feddit.nl 3 points 2 days ago

Revenue says basically nothing in this kind of context. HP's earnings before taxes was 3 279m so 100k is well nothing.

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

earnings before taxes was 3 279m so 100k is well nothing.

Genuinely confused now, are you saying "your nothing" is different from "my nothing"?

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[-] markz@suppo.fi 3 points 2 days ago

What should I have shared instead?

I'm guessing operational profit

[-] utopiah@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 days ago

Damn, sounds like a wild guess though, how about revenue? /s

[-] Weydemeyer@lemmy.ml 97 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

FYI HP (and Dell, but not Lenovo) are priority targets on the BDS list. Please do not support them even if they support Linux.

[-] vort3@lemmy.ml 44 points 3 days ago

What's the "BDS" list? Never heard of it.

[-] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 71 points 3 days ago
[-] Axolotl_cpp@feddit.it 11 points 3 days ago

I read it as "BSD" at first glance and i was like "damn, i didn't knew the Linux communty declared war on BSD" 😭

[-] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Sooo, i get it but this still doesn't explain what BDS is. Boycott Dis Shit?

edit- my ADHD ass missed the link.

Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions

[-] Cethin@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

I hate when I already don't buy from any of these companies, so I can't really join the boycott for this. At least some of them I am boycotting for other reasons, not just because they make a shit product. Intell, for example, I'll buy from AMD every time first.

[-] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 days ago

AMD's not just in Israel, Lisa Su has been visiting the white house lately.

[-] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago

Sadly, AMD is in Israel as well, although to a lesser degree.

[-] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 days ago

Siemens is on there?

As an electrical engineer, I guess I know which company is NOT selling my circuit breakers now.

[-] shweddy@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Boycott divest and sanction israel

[-] phar@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Damn I just looked that up and WIX is on the list. WTF, WIX? Damnit

[-] Egonallanon@feddit.uk 12 points 3 days ago

They're an Israeli company so they're included by default. I think they just get their own entry as they a decently large organisation.

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[-] pastermil@sh.itjust.works 54 points 3 days ago

Still, fuck HP.

[-] jaypatelani@lemmy.ml 13 points 3 days ago

Soon subscription is coming up for fwupd

[-] racoon@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

“This HPLinux only works on snapd. Please enable snapd on systemd in order to boot”

[-] racoon@lemmy.ml 6 points 3 days ago

“A green pixel is faulty on your display. The driver cannot output any image”

[-] regedit@lemmy.zip 10 points 3 days ago

Monitor ran out of cyan, can't show image. Please replace with Genuine HP Color Display Cartridge^tm to correct.

[-] kittenzrulz123@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 3 days ago

Thats pretty great of HP tbh, still fuck them im never buying another HP laptop after my last one suffered from a case of HP (Hinge Problems)

[-] LiamTheBox@lemmy.ml 11 points 3 days ago

Hostile Printers

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[-] notaviking@lemmy.world 30 points 3 days ago

Great news for the foundation, still sorry HP but you have burned me regarding your printers

[-] quantumvoid0@programming.dev 43 points 3 days ago

ik HP has a Linux laptop and all but this company is definitely the last company I thought would do smt like this

[-] adarza@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 days ago

high-usage vendors like hp (and dell, lenovo previously reported on) have to start paying-in to support the operating costs of the service.

they certainly aren't doing it because they want to.

[-] mr_right@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 days ago

me too but i don't think its a good idea to to trust their good gesture yet; their product lines are still hella closed and not allow for much customization. even in the rare instances they allow to they impose arbitrary limitation and/or require their software

[-] Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org 19 points 3 days ago

Whenever HP supports something, I'm left with the thought of 'cui bono' .

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

They've still got a pretty hefty server division and increasingly not using HP/UX, no?

Self preservation seems like a fairly obvious motivator

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[-] sakphul@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 3 days ago

Let's go! I want more of this! Better hardware/firmware support is always appreciated.

[-] Folstar@lemmus.org 2 points 2 days ago

Can someone ELI5? Is this extremely token gesture an appreciative nod or strings (visible or not) attached trojan horse?

[-] tomalley8342@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

HP uses fwupd on some models and 100k is cheaper than hiring a single engineer for in house contributions.

[-] phx@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Linux desktop marketshare is going up, though it's definitely not huge. Windows 11 is not particularly popular, and very resource-heavy in a time where those same resources are exploding in price. I'd imagine that hardware companies want to hedge their bets a bit and supporting Linux is this manner is pretty safe.

It's worth noting that HP is also one of the bigger hardware vendors and a lot of servers run Linux, so again firmware updates are probably a good thing you support.

[-] baner@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 days ago

Greats news more support for Linux, Two weeks ago I bought a Lenovo IdeaPad 2in1 and while I was on their website checking the warranty, I decided to see if there were BIOS drivers and there were. I tried using fwupd and it didn't find anything and when I searched found that this model does not have Linux support and I couldn't simply use the terminal, it was only possible from Windows, I had to download the .exe and Hiren's to update the firmware.

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