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[-] mercano@lemmy.world 127 points 1 month ago

There was already a bunker under the East Wing. If Trump chose to bulldoze it, that’s his own doing.

[-] 4am@lemmy.zip 57 points 1 month ago

Yeah sounds like this is the perfect time for a missile attack. God damn he’s stupid

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago

lets see if it can withstand a MT warhead.

[-] fartographer@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Why would you launch a warhead with nothing in it? Like, it's completely mt?

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[-] homes@piefed.world 76 points 1 month ago

well, now, I've never been more against it

[-] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 68 points 1 month ago

Bunkers don’t need ballrooms.

[-] RagingRobot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago

Yeah build the bunker and put some grass on top

[-] Omgpwnies@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

The difference between a bunker and an oubliette is what the people on the outside decide to do with the entrance/exit.

Just make sure there's some amontillado inside.

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 65 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

As if we needed any further confirmation that the bunker beneath it was the actually important part of the project.

(Can we please ensure that the bunker is stocked with at least one Luger pistol? For tradition's sake.)

[-] mememuseum@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Hitler shot himself with a Walther PPK

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

Give them a Nambo instead. They don't deserve the build quality of Luger.

[-] GuyFawkesV@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Slow acting but irreversible poison.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago

Nah I want the thing to blow up in their hand. I'm more of a maim until they wish for death kinda guy. Then you can ensure they eat through a tube for years to come.

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[-] andxz@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

The Nambu has a notoriously weak cartridge. With a skull like his he'd be liable to botch it badly and probably wake up with a full diaper and a headache.

Not sure if that'd be better or worse than the alternative really.

Also contrary to popular belief they're generally really well made unless it's an extremely late one. 8x22 is just really really weak.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 42 points 1 month ago

Sounds like quite the waste of money then.

[-] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 38 points 1 month ago

"I can't be expected to live in this glass house. Not after all these rocks I've been throwing."

[-] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

Imagine being the poor bastards stuck in there with him. The smell alone ... !

[-] Iusedtobeanalien@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

Where air goes in so can poisonous gases, so you may be able to hide but any enemy could still Moscow Theatre siege your ass

[-] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 15 points 1 month ago

It won't even be started before Trump pops his clogs.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Fuck that. President starts a war that results in missiles falling on DC he can go down with the ship.

[-] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Will this $600m ballroom be finished before the end of president?

[-] FatVegan@leminal.space 26 points 1 month ago

The 1.6 billion ballroom will probably not be finished, but the money is somehow gone.

[-] skozzii@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

I dunno, 2.2 billion for a ballroom seems like a great deal.

[-] partofthevoice@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 month ago

Yeah, almost a steal at 3.6 billion. I can’t believe they got such a good deal. They’re practically saving trillions.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

I’m sure the Trump family are comfortably provided for, somewhere in that $4.1B

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[-] LodeMike@lemmy.today 14 points 1 month ago

As if there aren't dozens of steps before another country strikes upon the U.S.

[-] OwOarchist@pawb.social 20 points 1 month ago

He's not worried about another country. He's worried about a well-earned military coup.

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

Or civil war and/or federal dissolutionment, if those happened it's almost garunteed federal control of DC would fall almost immediately. He would need a bunker to hide in for possibly weeks in such a case. Assuming he isn't killed immediately.

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[-] MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago

I'd argue that Trump being hit by a missile attack would IMPROVE the USA national security.

[-] FistingEnthusiast@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

Anyone with an IQ higher than their shoe size agrees

[-] tal@lemmy.today 9 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Others are more sanguine. Paul Eckloff, a former Secret Service agent who served on Trump's detail and previously on Barack Obama's, argued that what has emerged in court so far does not amount to a 'genuine security breach,' saying operationally sensitive information remains classified.

He was more worried about the practical effect of having a giant dig site inside a secure perimeter. An open pit next to the Executive Residence, he said, inevitably alters the calculus for agents tasked with keeping intruders out and the president alive. 'The longer this is an active construction site, the more concerning it is from a general security posture,' Eckloff said.

I don't think it matters much from a national security standpoint, specifically because of this:

Judge Leon has not hidden his scepticism. At an earlier hearing, he dismissed the idea that Trump's safety required the ballroom to go ahead, describing the 'large hole' next to the White House as a 'problem of the President's own making.'

We don't protect the President because the President is some sort of exceptional, irreplaceable figure. The President is just some guy. If Trump gets shot, then Vance gets dropped into the slot and things keep on trucking. Hell, personally I think that the US would very probably be better-off with just about any other major politician at the wheel.

We protect the President because we don't want it to be viable to coerce the President via physical threat. We don't want a country to say "do X on Policy Y or maybe we kill you" and have that be something that can affect the President's policy-making.

In this case, Trump decided that he was going to go right ahead and create the security risk, so he's probably not especially concerned about it. If he wanted it to stop, which presumably he would if he were worried about being killed, he could stop it. Ergo, cocercion isn't a factor.

If Trump decides tomorrow that he wants to go wingsuit BASE jumping or something, I mean, okay, sure, whatever. The Secret Service can just sit around and munch popcorn and watch him face-plant into a hillside, as far as I'm concerned. The problem isn't the President dying, but him being affected by threats of him being killed.

That's also why we have lifetime Secret Service protection for the President after he leaves office. It's not like he's being President then, not like we'd lose whatever he's bringing to the table. But you don't want other parties to be able to threaten the guy in office with retribution after he leaves office.

[-] KissyCat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

I am seriously not the least bit concerned.

[-] SupraMario@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

Build it, let him tour it, then lock it...and toss away the key

[-] gramie@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

Donald...I have a cask of very special wine I'd like you to try. It's an Amontillado. Do come down into the bunker and have a taste.

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[-] ChicoSuave@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Maybe be the kind of person who doesn't fear people shooting missiles at them.

[-] NewNewAugustEast@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago

Maybe if you were decent person you could have not caused people to want to lob missiles at you.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 month ago

you guys are trying to protect them?

[-] Maeve@kbin.earth 4 points 1 month ago

He's trying to protect himself, family and staff optional.

[-] Gates9@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 month ago

It’s kind of difficult to tell what is really going on with the ballroom. It could very well be that the government has planned an upgrade for years and Trumps ball room is the perfect cover, so he may or may not be “playing along”.

[-] scutiger@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago

If that were the case, they wouldn't have just gone ahead and started bulldozing willy nilly. They could have at least said it was for security reinforcements on the White House "and we may as well build a ballroom at the same time."

I'm sure it was the opposite. Trump wanted a ballroom, and they figured while the White House is half blown up, they may as well build a bunker.

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

While it’s tempting to believe there has to be a plan, a strategy, someone must have thought this out, history of this administration proves otherwise. Over and over

[-] Formfiller@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Will it protect him from the Hauge?

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[-] tehn00bi@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

Leave it a fucking hole in the ground.

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[-] Brummbaer@pawb.social 4 points 1 month ago

Reminds me of that Brecht quote.

Some party hack decreed that the people
had lost the government's confidence
and could only regain it with redoubled effort.
If that is the case, would it not be be simpler,
If the government simply dissolved the people
And elected another?

Bertolt Brecht

[-] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The Trump-Epstein Scrotum of Terra-Interred Security, or TESTIS.

[-] Redvenom@retrolemmy.com 3 points 1 month ago

The other option was for Him to stop being a douche but that is not possible

[-] Wilco@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 month ago

Nah, Im not worried about missiles at all. Do it ... I dare you.

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