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[-] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 hour ago

Of course it is unacceptable. That should be obvious and not a "headline". If someone invades your land and then ends up with your land, you were conquered. "Let yourself be conquered" is the best advice?

[-] lemmydividebyzero@reddthat.com 4 points 8 hours ago

Who rewards war will get more war later.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 2 points 9 hours ago

even some right wingers agree, the ones that have drank so much russian propaganda though.

[-] Lembot_0005@lemy.lol 30 points 17 hours ago

Does the current US government care about that "majority"'s opinion?

[-] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 27 points 17 hours ago

No. And the entire political system of the US is designed to prevent the will of the majority from being enacted. Which was done to appease the slavers, in case anyone is wondering.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Has it ever?

Iraq, Vietnam, Korea - all deeply unpopular wars. Both parties endorsed them, though, so popular opinion didn't matter.

Will anyone in the next election cycle pay a price for supporting land concessions in Ukraine? I'm not holding my breath after the "Vote Blue No Matter Who" contingent got done crushing the anti-Genocide voting block.

[-] BakerBagel@midwest.social 4 points 14 hours ago

They were popular wars right until the population came face to face with the hardship and expense of them. Most Americans were in favor of invasion, same in Vietnam.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 3 points 10 hours ago

Americans already overwhelmingly oppose an invasion of Venezuela. It will be interesting to see if that's enough to prevent it.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 1 points 13 hours ago

You mean the "Stay home, that'll teach them!" voting block?

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 10 hours ago

1/3 of eligible voters went for Trump. Another 1/3 stayed home or made protest votes. Of those who didn't vote for either party, the vast majority were (de)motivated by straight up apathy. Those trying to teach the Democrats (or Republicans) a lesson were probably the least significant bloc of all, yet some people seem stuck on blaming them for the outcome.

The fault lies with the Democratic establishment that pissed away every opportunity to win what should have been an easy victory. They really had to work to loose that election. If you really want to blame the voters, then start with Trump voters and the Democratic voters who nominated Biden in 2020.

[-] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 10 hours ago

Why stick with just one or the other? I'd rather blame every party that did their best to put Trump in power, whether intentionally or not.

And, like it or not, those who made it their mission to vilify anyone who had a chance of keeping Trump and his cronies from taking power are to blame. I'm perfectly willing to throw people who valued their ideals over pragmatism right under that bus where they belong.

[-] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 9 hours ago

I'd rather blame every party that did their best to put Trump in power, whether intentionally or not.

But you didn't. You blamed one tiny segment of voters.

The Republican and Democratic establishments are both to blame, but they are largely the same group. The Republican establishment just lost control of their populists while the Democratic establishment lost the loyalty of theirs.

Trump himself has never been the real problem. He's just a symptom of the rot in both establishments. He is doing very little that wasn't already where we were headed. At worst he sped up the process a bit.

[-] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 1 points 39 minutes ago

Trump totally screwed the pooch with tariffs and international relations. He's screwed up ukrane/russia, and he's screwing up Venezuela, and he's screwed up relations with Canada for decades. This is very different from the path the U.S. was on. I also don't buy that the U.S. was headed to fascism with military on the streets, and ICE taking naturalized citizens off the streets violently. So no, the parties are not the same. At all.
And specifically villainizing the idiots who helped Trump win by 'protest' voting against the democrats is valid. These are people who claim to want what's good for the country, they seem to understand the issues, but made absolutely moronic voting decision and then often claim some sort of moral superiority. They need to be educated/shamed so that they might do better next election if we actually get one.

[-] Flamekebab@piefed.social 7 points 16 hours ago

I doubt their politicians give the slightest shit.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago

How much longer should Ukraine be without power, and how many more Ukrainians should die to prevent this? How much more US social program cuts to fund an extra year of Ukrainian stalemate with 10%-20% rulership corruption skimming?

Majority of Americans don't know that US forced this war.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 7 hours ago
[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

When the only argument against demonic evil is that reality is russian bots, then bankrupting the US for war on Russia, China, AI is the only outcome that you bodysnatched minions of warmongering lizard people deserve.

[-] Punctual4979@fedia.io 5 points 16 hours ago

Who the fuck cares what Americans think.

[-] NABDad@lemmy.world 7 points 14 hours ago

Certainly not our government.

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 2 points 13 hours ago

Too bad their opinion doesn't matter in a monarchy?

I wish some of those people voted smarter.

[-] tempest@lemmy.ca 1 points 13 hours ago

Well the majority better get a go fund me going to pay Trump because that weather Vane just points to the side that's paying him the most. He takes payment in flattery and blackmail from his Russian handlers but I'm sure he would take a cheque just as quickly if it was large enough.

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