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[-] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 1 points 18 hours ago

Remaining apolitical did nothing to support South Africa and South Africans under Apartheid.
Back in the day we had protests songs about not playing Sun City, and made it clear to all performers and sports teams that we didn't want them to go. In addition, we cut them off from commerce and trade. As we said in the 80s, "we don't do business with the people who do business with the apartheid regime."

[-] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 38 points 1 day ago

Yes. Keep the event apolitical by doing the most political thing oit there: kick Russia out, but not Israel.

History will remember.

[-] eldavi@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 day ago

no you!

-- eurovision

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 5 points 1 day ago

I just can't understand why they aren't banning both. Russia is a clear one, but Israel shouldn't be any harder decision

[-] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 3 points 19 hours ago

The answer is white supremacy

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 1 points 18 hours ago

Wgat do you mean? I think a significant factor is that Ukraine is a participant too and Russia attacked them, so banning Russia is a pretty easy decision. But Israel baffles me

[-] HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Because most of Europe hate Russia but like Israel. Eurovision as an organization doesn't give a shit about either, it only does what it thinks will get them the most money. It's the same as US companies turning their logos into rainbows for pride month and "embracing DEI" riiiight up until being overtly racist and bigoted got cool again under Trump, then they flipped instantly.

Like only four countries expressed any serious backlash to including Israel, guarantee more would have lost their shit if Israel got banned. Inverse for Russia, majority want them banned and would lose their shit if they weren't. Eurovision complies with the majority with no further thought because their priorities start and and with money.

Organizations like these have no morals, to paraphrase what I read from someone else on Lemmy (don't remember who), they're simple profit optimization algorithms with no other concerns.

[-] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 1 points 19 hours ago

I know.

It's just that kicking Russia out for doing war stuff but not Israel for the same sits the worst with me.

Had they said "we never kick out anyone", they'd have a case keeping both. But I feel if they kicked out Russia, Israel should be kicked out by the same criteria. Both wage war nad neither seems like a good side of a war to be on to me, an outsifer to both conflicts.

It really does read like you said, though. Kicking out Russia and having Ukraine win that year was a very popular choice. Keeping israel, while not as popular still seems like the "right" thing for someone minmaxing viewership to choose. My bet is Israel wins. If not them, then a german-speaking country like Germany, Austria or Switzerland sibce they mostly support Israel.

[-] djdarren@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago

Big fan of people trying to maintain that Eurovision isn't political. Aye, and bears don't shit in the woods.

And I say that as a huge fan of Eurovision. A huge fan who may well not be watching it next year.

[-] bonenode@piefed.social 10 points 1 day ago

Lmao. Nice one UK, seriously.

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