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submitted 3 days ago by MicroWave@lemmy.world to c/world@lemmy.world

Washington is unhappy that some European arms programs limit U.S. participation.

U.S. Deputy Secretary of State Christopher Landau on Wednesday slammed European NATO allies for prioritizing their own defense industry over American arms suppliers, according to three NATO diplomats.

The intervention came during Wednesday's meeting of NATO foreign ministers — which was skipped by Landau's boss Marco Rubio.

Landau, a longtime NATO skeptic who spoke first at the closed-door meeting, told ministers not to “bully” his country’s defense firms out of participating in Europe’s rearmament.

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[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 1 points 8 hours ago

European bureucrats like von der Leyen are spineless American lapdogs. They will apologise and kiss Trump’s feet. They always have.

[-] MehBlah@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

The whole point of Europe handing our defense companies to the rear view mirror is to get away from relying on us. I as a american hope they do. The more they do the smaller US defense companies become and that is a good thing for america and its citizens.

[-] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago

Considering that we may have WW3 started by the United States, I very much approve of Europe and friends cutting out America. It would be preferable if they had fully vetted and stockpiled arms, rather than makeshift drones made out of bedframes.

[-] perestroika@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Quick, bring out the bicycle meme.

The US has a president who's gone to great length in demonstrating that the US is unreliable and could be treacherous.

For example, why should Denmark or its allies (the entire EU and NATO) buy weapons from a country whose president has indicated that he dreams of annexing Greenland?

The situation currently is such: Ukraine needs weapons right now, and will happily use European money to buy US weapons. But purchases where multiple alternatives are viable, and there's no hurry? Countries have started preferring their own weapons, or those of countries that are in the same boat. Depending solely on the US is seen as a vulnerability now.

Here in Eastern Europe, if offered a choice between a hypothetic identical US missile and a Swedish missile, I would consider it likely that supplies of the US missile may be absent at a critical time, while supplies of a Swedish missile will surely increase at a critical time. They're under the same umbrella and will help patch it if someone tries breaking it.

[-] andrewta@lemmy.world 70 points 3 days ago

Maybe that’s because we pissed everybody off.

[-] bobs_monkey@lemmy.zip 17 points 3 days ago

Now who could've seen that one coming.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 11 points 3 days ago

all part of putins plan, is to isolate the US.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 6 points 3 days ago

Divide et impera. He does that all over Europe, too, and has been doing it for decades. The USA is the main enemy though, and he already conquered that, Europe was always the prize.

[-] k0e3@lemmy.ca 57 points 3 days ago

The US just needs to pull itself up by the bootstraps and keep applying to more countries to land a contract.

[-] forrgott@lemmy.zip 20 points 3 days ago

They literally cannot even imagine the idea that their own actions have consequences. Watching these brainless fucks mesmerize so many people around me is absolutely terrifying.

And whether you intended that strictly as sarcasm or not - you're not wrong... We really do need to just sort our shit out as a country already. But there's still some stubborn idiots like me that refuse to give up. Will it be enough to even give us a chance? I dunno

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

Yep, America doesn't like 'hand outs' anyway. So they're honestly doing them a favor.

[-] forrgott@lemmy.zip 2 points 3 days ago

But you see, we don't have to earn it - y'all do! Or something. Fuck if I know...

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 26 points 3 days ago

Just wait until the post-tariff trade deals start hitting in a year or two.

America doesn't have any idea yet the scope of disaster that Donald has created, and the worst part is that he and the other billionaires are insulated from it.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 7 points 2 days ago

Insulated? Profiting off every move more like.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 30 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Deputy Secretary of State Christopher Landau on Wednesday slammed European NATO allies for prioritizing their own defense industry over American arms suppliers

BITCH YOU LITERALLY TOLD US THAT IS WHAT YOU WANTED.

Get fucked. I don't consider the US allies anyway, we don't ally with fascists.

Edit: i have been informed that I am to ease on the hyperbole, so correction: read the former through a lens of less hyperbole, violence is bad

[-] Ninjasftw@lemmy.world 21 points 3 days ago

I think you'll find that what they wanted was Europe to increase their defences spending by buying US made weapons not make their own.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 12 points 3 days ago

"No, not like that!"

[-] Aurenkin@sh.itjust.works 38 points 3 days ago

Why didn't Europe protect me from the consequences of my own actions?

[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 35 points 3 days ago

It's like they're not trusting the US for the defence of their sovereignty. That's weird. I wonder why.

[-] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 30 points 3 days ago

Tarriftopia complaining about "protectionist and exclusionary policies that bully American companies out of the market" is amazing.

[-] Fluke@feddit.uk 25 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Dear USA,

Womp womp.

Sincerely,

Everywhere Else.

[-] notsure@fedia.io 4 points 2 days ago

...as a US citizen, i am ashamed.

[-] Pat_Riot@lemmy.today 1 points 1 day ago

And you are not alone.

[-] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 22 points 3 days ago

European here. Good. Our elected officials are not yet so stupid as to think that stupid man has any actual sense.

[-] P00ptart@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago
[-] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 10 points 3 days ago

thoughts and prayers 

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 16 points 3 days ago

Washington is unhappy that some European arms programs limit U.S. participation.

Ok, we can make it all arms programs.

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago
[-] WhatGodIsMadeOf@feddit.org 20 points 3 days ago

America isn't a peer anymore.

[-] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 14 points 3 days ago

Hasn't the regime been tell them to do more for their own defenses? Why are they getting mad at them for doing what was asked?

[-] tomiant@piefed.social 2 points 3 days ago

Because they're a bunch of oligarch fascist psychopaths and they aren't satisfied with dominating their own hemisphere anymore, they got control over their own, now they are going to do the same to Europe.

Between Russia and the USA, I'd say we need to up our defense budgets across the board and talk about much closer collaboration between our nations, to become a force of our own. It's ridiculous this shit.

[-] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Good. Give nothing to the us of fascistland. Even Canada is going to switch to Europe for planes etc.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

Biggest global rearming since WW1 and people are cheering about it like they don't understand what happens next.

[-] Humanius@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Most people aren't cheering that we are rearming, but they understand that it is a necessary evil.

Russia is right at our doorsteps and is increasingly aggressive. So we either rearm in the hope that that threat keeps Russia at bay, or we don't and will hopelessly lose if Russia invades.

Personally I prefer the first option.

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Most people aren’t cheering that we are rearming, but they understand that it is a necessary evil.

Plenty of people are chomping at the bit for a Glorious New War we can all watch on the TV.

Russia is right at our doorsteps

That hasn't been true in over 40 years. And even when it was true, Europeans suffered far more under the paranoid police states of their own governments than any cross border conflict.

Personally I prefer the first option.

Not like any of us have a material say, but enjoy conscription I guess.

[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

The EU is buying a ton of American weapons though?

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 7 points 3 days ago

When is US going to start buying Eurofighter or Leopard 2 then?

[-] LuxSpark@lemmy.cafe 6 points 3 days ago

Looks like a smug fuck.

[-] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 1 points 2 days ago

respond by expelling thier embassies.

[-] andallthat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Oh, new intelligence has just emerged that your country's government is supporting a terrorist organization that sending drugs to the US! /s

[-] Tronn4@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago
[-] middlemanSI@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

I was about to praise the use of the word berates but then I read on..

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