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[-] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 107 points 2 days ago

AI was never meant to benefit the working class in any capacity.

Its a great rule of thumb that if you see oligarchs hype up something and push for it to be everywhere, its a BAD fucking thing.

[-] yggstyle@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

Meanwhile the average CEOs decision making could be replaced by a goldfish in a tank with some arbitrary object detection code.

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[-] JcbAzPx@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

They believe they can put an end to having to pay for labor in any capacity ever again. If I knew less than I did about how this AI works I would be worried.

Or if I worked in entertainment.

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[-] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 20 points 2 days ago

Resource drain of LLMs inescapably makes them tools availiable only to big players. They are ideal in the way they are naturally gated. Making them mandatory == giving these select companies and people power over everything. And not only oligarchs' promotion, but the whole situation of them being given for free or cheap at a huge loss gives one an idea that there's a lot to milk from it's growing adoption.

[-] Alaknar@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

But that's completely not true! Like, not a single thing you said is even slightly correct!

LLMs are relatively cheap to run - at small scales. You can run an LLM on your own computer right now. It won't be super fast, it won't have super skills, but you can run it, and you can train it yourself.

Massive LLMs like ChatGPT require tremendous resources precisely because they are not just tools available only to big players. Everybody on the planet has access to them - for free. The only actual difference there is between running an LLM locally and through a provider is that you get better speed and (sometimes, depending on context) better training through a provider.

As for "there's a lot to milk from its growing adoption" - maybe? Probably? Who knows? That's the "magic" of the AI bubble we're experiencing right now - the big players keep saying that it will "make work and money obsolete", that "anyone will be able to do anything", that "a time of post-scarcity approaches", and a billion other bullshit marketing slogans like that. But the reality is that nobody has yet figured out how to make money on that thing.

Right now, the only reason it's "growing", is because of the weird and probably illegal circular financing that's going on at the very top - Nvidia invests in OpenAI, which invests in Oracle, which invests in Nvidia - and so on. No money is actually being made or (often) even changing hands, but everyone can now show they've received a lot of investment which pumps up their stock prices. The only reason this hasn't popped yet is probably because the main investing parties are using tonnes of cash they had stored.

Growing adoption means nothing. It's a marketing tool for them to keep shareholders happy while they keep a literal investing circlejerk going, every now and again inviting another player into the fold.

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[-] HakunaHafada@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 2 days ago

Capitalism strikes again.

[-] ClydapusGotwald@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago

Fuck AI.

Guess when people ask me what ram do I need for X device I won’t be telling them to use crucial anymore to figure it out.

[-] sfgifz@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I won’t be telling them to use crucial anymore

We yes, because eventually the supply would wind down.

[-] zebidiah@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 days ago

this seems incredibly short sighted... the current situation exists because there is a large amount of infrastructure and data centres being built. once that infrastructure is built, the demand will return to normal... OR once the bubble bursts, the market will be flooded with used ram from failed data centres..... aliexpress will be selling ram at a dollar a gig when all these data centres flop

[-] abbiistabbii 40 points 2 days ago

The only people who believe in infinite growth in a finite world are mad men and economists.

[-] witten@lemmy.world 28 points 2 days ago

But you repeat yourself.

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[-] SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works 98 points 3 days ago

Translation, Micron is shutting down Crucial for short term shareholder value at the cost of a sustainable and proven long term brand and channel.

[-] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 38 points 3 days ago

They will return to the market with a new brand once the bubble bursts.

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[-] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 235 points 3 days ago

I am really beginning to fucking hate AI. Like, before I just didn't care for it, it just wasn't really my interest. But now I'm really beginning to fucking despise that shit and I really can't wait to see the "AI economy" completely fucking destroyed.

[-] hayvan@feddit.nl 111 points 3 days ago

AI even ruined AI. Up until this insane hype train, ML models were specialized tools to achieve their tasks. Now the whole field is dominated by LLMs and slopgen bullshit.

[-] chronicledmonocle@lemmy.world 46 points 3 days ago

Yeah that's the annoying thing. Generative AI is actually really useful.....in SPECIFIC situations. Discovering new battery tech, new medicines, etc. are all good use cases because it's basically a parrot and blender combined and most of these things are rehashes if existing technologies in new and novel ways.

It is not a fucking good solution for a search engine replacement to ask "Why do farts smell?". It uses way too much energy for that and it hallucinates bullshit.

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[-] Kyrgizion@lemmy.world 112 points 3 days ago

So far, AI has cost me a few hobbies (as in, made them a lot less enjoyable) and one job.

If there's an uprising against clankers, you'll find me at the front lines.

[-] hayvan@feddit.nl 83 points 3 days ago

Your enemy is, as usual, billionaires and their fanboys. Clankas don't exist as a separate thing, they are tools of the wealthy to further oppress the common folk.

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[-] thfi@discuss.tchncs.de 327 points 3 days ago

I can only hope that the A.I. bubble bursts in time when I need to buy a new computer.

[-] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 271 points 3 days ago

What I'm becoming worried about now is all these corporations now realizing that they can simply supply price the average consumer out of owning electronics or any kind of compute. And locking them into renting or leasing access to data center compute and keeping the power of information further consolidated in corporate interests.

[-] pinheadednightmare@lemmy.world 139 points 3 days ago

“You will own nothing and be happy”

[-] fartographer@lemmy.world 25 points 3 days ago

That out of context quote takes a lot of shit for something that was supposed to represent a futuristic socialist utopia.

The idea was that 14 years after that article was published, mankind would have such immediate access to services and those services would be free, that people would just sorta stop caring about owning things. For example, since food and necessities would be free, you could go home and print your dinner. If you wanted someone else to cook, you'd get something delivered. But, if you wanted to try something truly novel that most people don't do anymore in this society, you could rent kitchen equipment and it'd be ready as soon as you need it, and you'd use socialized appliances and utensils. Why? Because your home doesn't need that clutter. If you wanna cook all the time, you can own whatever you want. But most people will want to use that space for something else, so they'll just print their meals.

You would have quick and easy access to transport, so why waste the money and space to own a car? You wanna drive? Push a button in your app and a car arrives for free. Or take the free train or bus.

The essay isn't about "you won't be able to own anything," it's about "you won't want to own anything, but you'll have everything you could ever want or need."

And we're really headed in the right direction for this amazing future. Except, you know... Corporations are bleeding us dry instead of supporting us...

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[-] deliriousdreams@fedia.io 54 points 3 days ago

Aren't we already seeing that though?

The vast majority of people who surf the web don't use a computer to do it. People who do belong to niches. People over a certain age grew up with and still buy computers. People who game still buy computers or consoles. People who stream/create content still use computers and other electronics for that purpose, same with like. Engineers and hobbyists using CAD and other software in creative spaces.

But the smart phone has overtaken the computer as a personal computing device by quite a large margin now. And at every turn companies are trying to make cell phones a den of ad service, slop, and addictive content while stealing any user data that's not nailed down to increase their revenue and continue the circle.

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[-] Velypso@sh.itjust.works 102 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I built a god rig in 2022, i bought the best 64gb ddr5 4-stick ram kit i could, an nvidia 4090, the best processor i could, and attached it to the best mobo i could.

I spent about 4800.

My pc is now worth about 6500.

This is some crazy ass shit. Never should a pc appreciate in value.

What the hell is going on?????

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[-] Dawn_Vibration@lemmy.world 104 points 3 days ago

AI is really ruining fucking everything. The enviorment, entertainement, music, art, jobs, reality, freedom / privacy / rights.

[-] phx@lemmy.world 60 points 3 days ago

No, corporate greed is ruining everything with AI.

Because you know if they built a super-AI that give them perfect instructions on how to build Earth into a paradise, but it would require they give up 1/4 of their wealth, they'd be reaching for the reset button before it finished printing them out...

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[-] Credibly_Human@lemmy.world 43 points 3 days ago

The fact people are blaming the tech rather than the tech bros is a big part of why this keeps happening.

Its the decision of real people that make this situation suck.

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[-] Bluewing@lemmy.world 44 points 2 days ago

So their not shutting down, just focusing on AI idiots until the bubble busts and then they will turn back to consumers.......

Rules of Acquisition #1,261-- Always fuck over the idiots in the market. And when you've taken all their money, go back to your base with inflated prices.

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Holy shit, really? Crucial? They’ve been a major player for AGES. That’s wild.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 126 points 3 days ago

I mean, Crucial is just the name that Micron puts on the memory they want to sell to consumers. So this story is basically just, "Micron no longer wants to sell to consumers".

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[-] Jocker@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Bought two 32GB DDR5 RAM Sticks at the start of the year, and turns out that was the best investment of this year.

[-] Elgenzay@lemmy.ml 126 points 3 days ago

Damn, that was the only brand of RAM without LEDs and racing stripes on it

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[-] SnotFlickerman 142 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

You gotta be fucking kidding me, I swore by Crucial RAM and SSDs. Eat shit, Micron.

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[-] markz@suppo.fi 145 points 3 days ago

A few months from now: Crucial unshutting down

[-] SnotFlickerman 94 points 3 days ago

If that happens, prior Crucial consumers (like myself) should boycott because they already showed what they actually care about and it isn't their loyal customer base. They don't want us to buy their products? We should happily give them what they want now should they change their mind later.

Anyway yeah, if they come back, they're officially on my shit list.

[-] khannie@lemmy.world 104 points 3 days ago

I deeply, genuinely, hope that the AI bubble bursts and they get fucked. It's just so short sighted to not hold on to the safety rope.

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[-] catch22@programming.dev 5 points 2 days ago

!Technological Implosion imminent, please stand clear!

[-] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 32 points 3 days ago

My next computer will be a bag of LSD and YouTube Longplays.

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[-] HertzDentalBar 45 points 3 days ago

Fuck AI, may the people pushing it die by its hands.

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[-] OldQWERTYbastard@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

I just installed a 4TB nvme Crucial SSD in my new build solely to put games on.

I'm sure they will come crawling back to consumers after the AI bubble bursts.

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[-] LoafedBurrito@lemmy.world 58 points 3 days ago

Crucial is the only good brand I can afford. This sucks ass and I HATE AI. I hope AI companies lose all their money and go bankrupt.

AI is destroying so many awesome things, all for profit.

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[-] MrSilkworm@lemmy.ml 17 points 2 days ago

Business don't care about consumers because nowadays business sell to other business

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[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 34 points 3 days ago

I don't believe this, because it is too stupid. 2026 demand forecasts for HBM I don't believe will materialize, as customers can't pay those crazy RAM prices either, OpenAI can't pay for all of their promises, demand isn't high enough for the planned data centers, and power and labour constraints.

I don't believe it because Micron is a brand that has value premium to it. Even if they just keep charging extortionist prices while HBM demand fantasy remains propagandized, there will eventually be worthwhile consumer demand for RAM, right? Killing the division and firing everyone in it, is Micron saying "making too much money from HBM must forever put all eggs in HBM basket"

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