Nah, the 12 dead laptops undef my bed I use for hardware salvage and experiments are device hoarding. The multiple disassembled game consoles in my closet is device hoarding. None of it is sorted, the retro stuff isn't sorted, the new stuff isn't sorted.

I'm device hoarding. The average consumer is absolutely not.

The poverty caused by funneling money to the top in the kleptocracy we have will cause most people to "hoard" their devices.

Money hoarding by billionaires is literally destroying the entire world

blaming the consumer again?

Instead of the billion/trillionaires that are hoarding wealth that they'll NEVER be able to spend?

how fucking sad is it that there are people sleeping on the street, worried about their next meal will come from, meanwhile gaben has a billion$ worth of megayachts

i refuse to upgrade, because newer phones are objectively a worse experience than older ones. They keep removing features in the name of "innovation" while putting more stuff in there that the market is actively telling them they don't want.

Brought to you by rich boomers who bought a new car every 2 years. True story.

It's funny how thrift and frugality will ruin the economy for everyone but gambling with other people's homes and retirement funds is good business sense.

Yes, these people are truly insane. I recently read the following headline:

Rheinmetall shares: Fear of peace shocks investors

(Translated from German, source | Rheinmetall is an arms manufacturer)

If you want people to buy a new phone every year "for the economy", the $1800 phone must be reduced to $50, and the quality stays at flagship levels. The citizens are not here to make the oligarchs wealthy. Fuck your economy.

What if, bear with me here, what if people just don't have as much disposable income after the dramatic transfer of wealth to the rich class we've been seeing?

The economy is collapsing and the lower classes are feeling it already. The rich investor class isn't seeing it because the tech industry has been propping up the market with their investments going all-in with unrealistic expectations for AI technology. We are currently experiencing a K-shaped recovery where the richest are on a spending spree while the poorest are cutting back their expenses. How much more obvious must it be that this is what's going on?

You want the general population to start wasting their money on useless crap again, you'll have to give them more money to work with.

Can we get a headline about bazillionaires hoarding wealth?

Capitalism is a cult. Must produce for the sake of production. Must consume for the sake of consumption.

If no need for something exists, it must be created. Solutions in search of problems.

Better to produce something and throw it away than to miss out on a sale, or heaven forbid give it away.

They can pry my Galaxy S4 with removable battery and IR blaster out of my cold dead hands. (Thank you LineageOS, because Samsung dropped updates for it a decade ago.)

“Costing the economy”

Thankfully wealth horders aka. billionaires pouring money into offshore bank accounts, unaffordable real estate, government bonds, and inflated stocks are all in our benefit. Only us peasants are being selfish.

Hoard cool cars in a secret garage never to see the light of day ever again? Collecting.

Keep your phone for 5 years until you're forced to upgrade? Hoarding.

Rough housing with your cousins at Thanksgiving? Horsing.

Weren’t these the same people saying that we should stop buying new iPhones and avocado toast?

its in response to planned obsolescence.

In the meantime EU is forcing manufactures to use replaceable batteries, provide updates for 5 years and spare parts for 7 years.

You see, here's the thing.

When this whole smart phone thing started, smart phones sucked. They ate a lot of power, so the battery didn't last, they were slow, both in computation, and loading data, the screens were pretty trash (dim, low res, huge bezels).... Everything needed improvements.

Now-a-days, my phone, whether new, or a couple years old, has an all day battery life, it's pretty quick and snappy, apps load quickly, data appears almost instantly on it, the screen is bright, with minimal bezel area.... Nothing I care about changes.

So why am I upgrading? Slightly better camera? Slightly better everything else? Stuff I don't perceive has been "improved" and I don't actually give a shit.

My reason to upgrade isn't there. Currently, my reason to upgrade is: this phone will no longer get upgrades, I should get something that will.... For security. That's it.

So why in the actual fuck, would I bother doing it if I don't have to? AI? No thanks.

Seriously, I remember the days when buying the newest model of phone every year was seen as near parody levels of hyper-consumerism. It was lambasted, mocked, looked down on.

This just means they made good enough products. People save some money, can use that money to buy something else they need, maybe just not from the same company. It saves the planet a little bit.

Maybe if any of the good features coming out today wasn't paired with the monkey's paw that is:

• it's behind an app
• it's a subscription service
• it's planned obsolescence
• I can actually fix it with third party vendors
• it's selling your data

Maybe then consumers would actually get excited by new developments. All these trends are doing is turning the new generations into luddites.

Will someone sell me one that is secure, doesn't resell my data, isn't preloaded with useless AI "features", and doesn't have Israeli Spyware on it?

I'm waiting for Canada to allow some of the Chinese models in Huawei looks great. They may still collect data, but not for the US tech oligarchs.

Hey, it was thanks to these kinds of people that I was able to buy a literally new Galaxy S24 for $300 like a month after release.

Frankly there is a way to get me to upgrade my phone from my current one but I can garuntee that there ain't many companies making phones to my upgrade standards. But here's a list.

-Easy to swap battery where I can just pop the lid and put a new one in.

-Aux jack because I want it.

-MicroSD card slot.

-Solid CPU, Ram, Storage, Et cetera.

-Give me actual buttons at the bottom you fucken cretins, I like my textile response you lousy motherfuckers.

-If you put the button on the back I'm breaking your back.

That's all I need, ideally it'd also be modular and upgradable but I severely doubt I'm getting that anytime soon. A lot of the problem with phones is that you can't really customize them to your needs, if I could I'd have a smartphone that'd look like it's from mid 90s scifi where it'd have a big fuck you battery on it and a host of controls along the side for quick use, but noooo it all has to be overly generic hyper standardized crap. Fucken hate modern phones.

In an age where phones get seven or more years of software support theres very little reason not to use your phone until it breaks

I saw the phrase the other day and thought the same thing. They should be complaining about the manufacturers "feature hoarding".

Using an 11 year old blackberry converted to android. Kiss my ass with that phone treadmill.