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I don't quite understand the criticism. It's not gonna be top of the line, but it's more than enough to replace my dying laptop from 2015 that I pretty much only ever use like a desktop anyway. And I can save myself the time and effort of picking parts, building, and dealing with shit not working as expected.

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[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 197 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I have to keep using the megacorporate OS because the other megacorporation won't let me play their slop game unless they can install a virus on my computer!

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 93 points 6 months ago

It's Activision-Blizzard. It's the same megacorporation

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 51 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Ah right, I forgot MS bought them.

[-] RickyRigatoni@retrolemmy.com 13 points 6 months ago

Man I remember when both those names were something to get excited about.

[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 153 points 6 months ago

been playing on linux for many many years.

never once have I been stopped by kernal level anticheat.

Weird, its almost as if good games don't use invasive spyware rootkits.

[-] FatVegan@leminal.space 68 points 6 months ago

I feel like the steam machine could actually change the trajectory of gaming. I mean look at the playstation 5. It was crazy overhyped, they don't have any games, pay to play online, the next one is around the corner. The xbox is somehow even worse. If the steam machine sells, linux is gonna see an insane push and the game developers have to sink or swim.

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[-] Ephera@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago

Eh, it's gonna depend on your taste in games. If competitive multiplayer games are your thing, then it is a problem. But sure, there's lots of people who have zero interest in competitive multiplayer.

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[-] Meron35@lemmy.world 126 points 6 months ago
[-] Shipgirlboy@sh.itjust.works 85 points 6 months ago

I don't need it but I want it. The GabeCube has basically the best of both worlds, the ease of use of consoles and the multi purpose usage of a PC. That's also why it can't be priced like a console I'm afraid. It has to be sold at least at cost (production+development) and can't be subsidized by game sales like a PS or Xbox. A console without games is pretty much useless, the Steam Machine without games is still a damn fine PC.

[-] rbos@lemmy.ca 28 points 6 months ago

If it was sold at a loss, businesses would scrape the whole supply and pave them for windows desktops.

[-] dustyData@lemmy.world 14 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

That just wouldn't happen unless the steam machine costs less than $300. That's usually the top a corporation is willing to pay for bulk mini nucs, which is all that they want for clerk desks. Information workers get laptops with dell or HP embossed in the lid. Workstations for top design or video editing require way more juice than the Steam Machine can deliver, those are bought on order to professional boutiques, or they just buy Apple. Also, no administrator will sit on the steam shop page to buy one at a time, they like their bulk purchases and Valve can simple refuse anyone buying hundreds of machines. Then, corporations don't just want the PC, they want tech support, advanced guarantee schemes, etc. This usually come with a subscription per seat. All things Valve simply won't provide. It won't even register as an option for businesses.

This is an unfounded concern.

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[-] heavy@sh.itjust.works 73 points 6 months ago

I mean thats gonna be the joke. If steam machine really does take off, developers will come, just like they're starting to cater to the deck. It'll set a standard for what people want to play on and what they need to make sure their game works on. This is beyond anti cheat and DRM but it'll be interesting to see how the momentum picks up.

I'd bet that Microsoft is already thinking about getting gamepass working on it (for better or worse)

[-] daggermoon@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

Depends how much the thing costs.

[-] heavy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 months ago

Oh yeah I don't mean to imply that it's a guaranteed success, you're right.

The hype is real though.

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[-] Danitos@reddthat.com 62 points 6 months ago
[-] rmrf@lemmy.ml 41 points 6 months ago

I wish laws represented the interests of the 99%

[-] Grainne@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 6 months ago

Wish granted, laws represent the owners of 99% of all wealth.

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[-] yakko@feddit.uk 60 points 6 months ago

I don't think I need it, but I'm super glad it's going to exist.

If it came with a native DVD reader and my PS4 suddenly died, I'd have some choices to make, however.

[-] Truscape 71 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm 1000% certain you could attach a Blu-Ray drive via USB without internet telemetry, unlike Sony's policies ;)

Edit: fixed rogue "care of" character, will contact GrapheneOS team lol

[-] yakko@feddit.uk 21 points 6 months ago

The idea did occur to me a minute after I'd commented. After my PS4 gives up, I'll have choices to make.

[-] NeatNit@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 6 months ago

1000โ„…

Surely you mean 1000โ€ฐ (1000 per mille), not care of. How did you type that, anyway?!

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[-] DupaCycki@lemmy.world 52 points 6 months ago

In all honesty, I think it might be overall better if games like Fortnite, CoD or Fifa never get patched for Linux. The vast majority of their players are just addicts who fell victim to the predatory mechanisms. One of the few effective solutions is to cut them off this stuff.

Ideally, these games shouldn't exist, at least not in their current form. But it's not like billionaire sociopaths will stop feeding on the weak and poor anytime soon.

[-] conartistpanda@lemmy.world 30 points 6 months ago

Remember when Linux was about freedom? If the OS lets me delete root recursively, it can also let me play slop. It's not my mom.

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[-] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 15 points 6 months ago

That's the only thing I worry about personally, not the users so much, but the capitalists who see "opportunity" once Linux gains a hold, and start figuring out how to make it disgusting like everything else they touch with their greedy little slop mitts.

It won't be "Well, Linux doesn't permit anticheat", it will be

"Okay how do we create some centralized power structure that makes invasive DRM and anticheat that runs on Linux?"

And they'll move to colonize.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 51 points 6 months ago

If it does not work on Linux I simply won't buy it.

[-] Tartas1995@discuss.tchncs.de 46 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I am excited for the steam machine because of the anti cheat issue. If we push for linux gaming, they are forced to either find a ~~spyware~~ kernel anti cheat solution for linux or drop the ~~spyware~~ kernel anti cheat.

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[-] VerilyFemme 43 points 6 months ago

The best part of Linux is shitty games don't work on it.

[-] deathmetal27@lemmy.world 38 points 6 months ago

You don't use Linux because of kernel anti-cheats

I don't play CoD because kernel anti-cheats

We are not the same

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[-] LettyWhiterock@lemmy.world 25 points 6 months ago

The thing is this is a legitimate problem for the overall success of this. And the success of Linux as a general gaming OS. If people can't play their staples like CoD or fortnite or anything else with this problem, then that'll be enough to decide not to get this. Most people here probably don't care, but we're not the majority. And a lot of us probably aren't in the market for this anyway.

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[-] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 24 points 6 months ago

Sounds like an Activision-Blizzard problem to me.

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[-] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 6 months ago

If they want to make their game incompatible with the best gaming systems I will simply not play it.

[-] DmMacniel@feddit.org 18 points 6 months ago

I see this as an absolute win.

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[-] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 18 points 6 months ago

Its hard to even phrase this in a way that doesnt show that the game is clearly the problem and not linux

[-] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Valve is putting serious money behind Linux and has a lot of pull with game devs. They will fall in line soon.

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[-] Tier1BuildABear@lemmy.world 16 points 6 months ago

You can literally install windows on it if you want

[-] ZkhqrD5o@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago

Oh no! It only plays the CoD games that were good.

IMO: let windows have that, as these games do some SCP-level containment for everyone sane in this hobby.

[-] AlexanderTheDead@lemmy.world 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

I'm not sure that anyone who cares that much about COD has any level of overlap with PC gamers. Or really with any gamer, period. "Oh, no, I can't play the cod game this year. Womp womp." Said nobody over the age of 18, ever. They'll play the next one when it comes to steam machine. Lmao.

Edit: key phrase "anyone that cares that much". Yes, everyone engages in hyperbole.

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[-] yumyumsmuncher@feddit.uk 14 points 6 months ago

It's a feature

[-] thorhop@sopuli.xyz 13 points 6 months ago

Boycott the Call of Duty mines.

[-] Darkness343@lemmy.world 13 points 6 months ago

They could sell it as a machine that protects your privacy and prevents any privacy invasive software from running in it

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