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[-] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

He said from his privately chartered jet

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 59 points 4 days ago

When I was young John was my favorite Beatle. But now that I've learned about the actual men, Paul was the only Beatle that had always been a decent person.

[-] SatyrSack@quokk.au 23 points 4 days ago

Wow, I just looked into it, and McCartney hasn't really had any controversies. I was under the impression that they were all rather awful people. Any idea wny?

[-] balsoft@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago

Well, he's rich (probably close to a billionaire), and IIRC he's a rabid copyright supporter (mostly because it benefits him). But now that I've tried to look up the source for that second claim, I can't find it easily - maybe I'm confusing him with another Beatle.

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 17 points 3 days ago

I mean are we really gonna drag this guy down with all the others because he is a proponent for copyright laws. That's not even bad it's the most luke warm take ever.

[-] krooklochurm@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

When your work has influence the course of pretty much all music that came after it I can absolutely understand wanting to at least maintain a semblance of control of your actual work.

I think there are a lot of problems with copyright law but I don't have issue with an artist maintaining control over their own work while they're alive.

Corporations in the other hand....

[-] Tiresia@slrpnk.net 3 points 3 days ago

control over your own work

He can still control his hands, can't he? He can still decide whether he goes on stage?

How is it his work if someone else learns to perform a song he wrote? How is it controlling his work to say someone can't copy a recording of someone else playing that song?

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[-] prole 1 points 2 days ago

George Harrison was a decent dude, no?

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

He cheated on his wife with Ringo's wife. He could have (and did) have any woman he wanted but he slept with his friend's wife.

[-] prole 1 points 1 day ago

To be fair, there was a lot of wife swapping going down at that time. Harrison pretty much gave Patty Boyd to Eric Clapton, which is also pretty weird.

[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That was after and probably Patty trying to get back at George. It's only ok if its consensual. She wasn't ok with it.

[-] LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 days ago

John was a fucking bully

[-] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago
[-] Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world 20 points 3 days ago

He said in an interview that he beat his 1st wife so much that he understood why she cheated on him with George.

[-] Protoknuckles@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago

...that will do it.

[-] dandelion 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

feels a bit ironic to urge for making the conference vegetarian, if the critique is that animal agriculture is killing the planet and serving animal products sends the wrong message, then continuing to serve just some of them is like advocating for handing out smokeless tobacco products rather than cigarettes at a cancer conference...

yeah, it's maybe better, but ... not by much, right?

I guess vegetarian would be demonstrably better than including meat, but dairy and eggs are produced the same way with similar climate footprints as meat, no?

not to play purity politics, better is still better - just enjoying the irony I guess

[-] axx@slrpnk.net 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Every public event should be vegan, yes. It's the common denominator and it's has the lowest footprint in terms of global warning potential gas.

For a environmental event, of course it should be vegan, but the least you can do is make it vegetarian. It is still quite a lot better. In any case, these big events ate much more about symbolism than consistency, and that would send a message.

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[-] aeternum 3 points 2 days ago

I went to that extinction rebellion protest a few years back. I saw people eating dead animals! WTF!

[-] dandelion 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

it's a cultural problem, food culture is hard to change, even when you have reasons to change

it's harder for some than others, but the people who find it easy to become vegan are a small minority

rather than being shocked at the hypocrisy (which is admittedly there and is upsetting), I wonder instead what could be done to win more people over to veganism, or what other kinds of actions would move society towards a better set of conditions ... a hyper-individualist lens makes it hard to recognize these issues are on a collective and societal level, and it's more important that we solve those than whether someone was eating meat at a climate protest

pushing for legislation might be more effective than converting more of the minority of people who would become and stay vegan to do so in a society that is effectively hostile and provides little means to do so. Making it easier to be vegan by default is a hard task, though ... it's basically like waiting for the revolution.

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[-] quick_snail@feddit.nl 9 points 3 days ago

This is obvious, but if he was serious he would have contacted them more than a few days before the conference

[-] oeuf@slrpnk.net 26 points 4 days ago

Linda McCartney vegetarian sausages, pies etc remain some of the tastiest alternatives available in the supermarket.

[-] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 13 points 3 days ago

One of my favourite memories from university was going around like 4 different supermarkets late at night to find Linda McCartney sausages etc. for a big student barbecue the next day. My friend had made an online order that had been blocked by his bank due to the abnormally large value, and he didn't learn of this until the day the delivery was meant to arrive.

At the barbecue, I said "well, I best try one of these bloody sausages after all we went through to get them". My friend quipped "no, they're not bloody — they're vegetarian, that's the point". They were indeed quite tasty

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[-] Konstant@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago
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[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 15 points 4 days ago

I don't care what virtues they're playing at. The real question is are they doing anything substantive? Also no.

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 10 points 3 days ago

The summit isn't even finished and you're already doomer

[-] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 14 points 3 days ago

They literally tore down kilometers of rainforest just for this summit. It was over before it started.

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[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

Because these summits have any kind of track record of accomplishing anything? Talk, talk, fly, talk, fly ...

[-] Fleur_@aussie.zone 1 points 2 days ago

Why exactly do you think progress is being made? Just total coincidence? No people met up, discussed the problem, discussed solutions and implemented them.

[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

Why exactly do you think progress is being made?

Exactly what progress is being made? C02 emissions are higher every year, US shut down the EPA, Canada ended carbon taxes.

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