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After New York City’s race for mayor catapulted Zohran Mamdani from state assembly member into one of the world’s most prominent progressive voices, intense debate swirled over the ideas at the heart of his campaign.

His critics and opponents painted pledges such as free bus service, universal child care and rent freezes as unworkable, unrealistic and exorbitantly expensive.

But some have hit back, highlighting the quirk of geography that underpins some of this view. “He promised things that Europeans take for granted, but Americans are told are impossible,” said Dutch environmentalist and former government advisor Alexander Verbeek in the wake of Tuesday’s election.

Verbeek backed this with a comment he had overheard in an Oslo café, in which Mamdani was described as an American politician who “finally” sounded normal.

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[-] HazardousBanjo@lemmy.world 46 points 6 days ago

There's absolutely nothing radical about Mamdani.

All of his proposed policies are favored by the vast majority of Americans and normal in actually developed nations.

[-] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Exactly. The real radical ones are like the US who don't give their own people affordable health care of all things.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 days ago

Shout out to everyone who said his lofty impossible ideas are never going to happen in reality.

Somehow every country can do the impossible goals of "maybe the rich don't own every store" and "let's make it so people are paid better" but America, but somehow they're the impossibility, never the one county that refuses to try it.

[-] Fedizen@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

COMMUNIST EUROPE

[-] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)
[-] Houseman@lemmy.world 3 points 6 days ago

Not treating your populace like animals.

[-] Electricd@lemmybefree.net 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

We’re technically all animals

But yea apart from that, it’s never been the norm in the USA, therefore it is not "normal"

You can also think it’s a basic feature that any country should have. There are many definitions of what normality is

So I’m just nitpicking

Don’t know why I’m writing this comment

Ignore me

[-] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago

Overton window and all that.

From a unitedstatesian:

Genuinely, thank you, European politicians and public figures, for pointing out that reasonably socialized public services are considered de rigueur by the vast majority of the rest of the developed world.

[-] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 146 points 1 week ago

It felt so weird when Tim Walz was lauded as a “gift to progressives” when he was running on a platform of “kids deserve food”.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 82 points 1 week ago

I live in Colorado where we just passed a resolution to pay for school lunches by a small tax on individuals making $300,000 or more.

I swear to God, there were a ton of people complaining about it. My favorite was a Facebook friend of my brother who posted "Why are we allowing people to vote on this who don't make more than $300,000 a year if it doesn't affect them? That's not how democracy works."

These people are fucking insane.

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[-] QuoVadisHomines@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 week ago

Not just the developed world as quite a lot of developing nations strive to offer these services as well.

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[-] not_me@piefed.social 152 points 1 week ago

It is time for the Americans to wake up and strike for all the freedoms and benefits that we have enjoyed here in Europe for 50 years

[-] SethTaylor@lemmy.world 138 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Yes. Thank you.

The fact that even r/democrats has banned posts about Mamdani is shocking to me. (I found out from Bluesky, went to Reddit and checked and it's true)

This dude is normal. Full stop.

EDIT: And yea, I was literally thinking these days "It's nice to see Europe influencing the US for a change"

[-] Jentu@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 days ago

“It’s nice to see Europe influencing the US for a change”

They're even putting roundabouts in South Carolina cities!

[-] Evotech@lemmy.world 35 points 1 week ago
[-] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 66 points 1 week ago

Because Reddit is run by billionaires like any other enshittified format.

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[-] SLVRDRGN@lemmy.world 98 points 1 week ago

“Europeans recognize his vision about free public transit and universal childcare. We expect our governments to make these kinds of services accessible to all of us,” said Verbeek. “We pay higher taxes and get civilized societies in return. The debate here isn’t whether to have these programs, but how to improve them.”

Yes.

[-] volvoxvsmarla@sopuli.xyz 45 points 1 week ago

Honestly I love taxes. I don't love that billionaires don't pay enough taxes and the unequal tax burden across different social groups but I love taxes and I love the idea of taxes. My dream would be a society where I work for basically pocket money and everything else - quality staple food and fresh food, education, healthcare, adequate housing, transportation, communication, childcare - is provided to me.

Yeah, taxing the rich is basically the only way to make a society work at all. Nothing else works.

You can try to just print money to pay for social programs (in other words, what the state/government is doing when it goes into debt), but that's only a patchwork solution and not a long-term solution, because eventually if you print too much money you cause hyperinflation. So, taxing the rich is the only meaningful way to run a society long-term.

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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 87 points 1 week ago

Of course. Your Democrats are our conservative parties, and your Republicans are our rightwinger/neo-nazi parties. And we have parties, left of the American spectrum that are mainstream.

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[-] Ilixtze@lemmy.ml 70 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

As a foreigner I've been disgusted by all the American media surrounding Mamdani's campaign. Even from so called "liberal media" like the Washington post; it's been grotesque racist caricatures, overblown red scare taglines, and downright apocalyptic visions for a guy that wants, cheap fast buses and to tax the oligarchs.

I can't believe the Ideological shit show that is America and it frightens me that they think it is their duty to export these ideas to other countries.

[-] manxu@piefed.social 40 points 1 week ago

I agree with the sentiment, but the Washington Post has not been "liberal media" since Bezos bought it. I used to have a sub, in 2017, and don't recognize the place any longer.

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[-] elbiter@lemmy.world 62 points 1 week ago

Yes, it's called Social Democracy and the countries that apply it always have the highest standards of life.

Don't let the billionaires bullshit you.

[-] huppakee@piefed.social 61 points 1 week ago

“Here, taking care of one another through public programs isn’t radical socialism. It’s Tuesday.”

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[-] DandomRude@lemmy.world 50 points 1 week ago

I always found it absurd that in the richest country in the world, there is no universal health insurance, no parental leave, no public holidays, that a college education costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, that there is no protection against dismissal, that people are starving or working but still homeless because they cannot afford an apartment—all of this is inhumane, uncivilized, and a disgrace to the US, not its recipe for success; it is its downfall, as the current regime is demonstrating.

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[-] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 31 points 1 week ago

The whole "it's too expensive" thing is kind of nonsense. There are billionaires. We would get something for the money. It's not like Zohran is proposing building a 500 solid gold statue of himself, or a ballroom that would only be used by a handful of people. Healthcare, buses, grocery stores, those all actually help people and will lead to more good stuff later.

People who stay healthy later go out to concerts and spend money, or whatever.

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