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[-] Mortoc@lemmy.world 121 points 2 months ago

Anything to distract from the Epstein files.

[-] PodPerson@lemmy.zip 11 points 2 months ago

Are those similar to the Trump-Epstein files?

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[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 60 points 2 months ago

drawing up

Doesn't DoD have detailed attack plans for every nation already?

[-] frongt@lemmy.zip 46 points 2 months ago

Yes.

Well, not necessarily detailed. Like I'm sure the plan for an invasion of Uruguay is basically nonexistent, while one for war with China is comprehensive.

Plans for a zombie apocalypse have also been created at least once as an exercise. It's good practice for an emergency situation.

[-] redsand@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago

Airborne Rabies wouldn't be that dissimilar from zombies. Pretty sure there's a tabletop for that.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 9 points 2 months ago

We've got that in Australia!

note: It's 'not rabies' (it's Bat Lyssavirus, which is 'totally not rabies'*) and it's 'airborne' since they're bats :P

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[-] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 30 points 2 months ago

Yes but this is a bad headline. The article is about specifically using US military to attack cartels, which the Trump administration has already made legal for themselves by recategorizing them as terrorists.

It is still a violation of both international law and common sense.

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[-] orclev@lemmy.world 45 points 2 months ago

He's trying to imitate Putin. Probably go about as well as it has for Putin as well.

[-] LambeauLeap@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

...Putin is about to walk away with 20% of Ukraine

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 24 points 2 months ago

They went from Ukraine being a Russian vassal state to a prospective NATO/EU member with 80% of their territory intact. What's their next move, invade Belarus and end up half of that become an EU member too?

That said, Putin has not walked away with 20% of anything just yet.

[-] Goodeye8@piefed.social 10 points 2 months ago

Not just that. For that supposed 20% he reinvigorated NATO (prior to the full scale invasion countries started questioning if we still need NATO), got EU to increase defense spending and got Finland and Sweden to join NATO. They also proved they're a paper tiger and their arms manufacturing is crap. Oh and of course sanctions and the war completely wrecking the economy.

Even if they somehow get 20% it's a Pyrrhic victory.

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

For that supposed 20% he reinvigorated NATO (prior to the full scale invasion countries started questioning if we still need NATO), got EU to increase defense spending and got Finland and Sweden to join NATO.

Don't you see how this works both ways?

He measured NATO's response, he found a way to fight wars and not break (in the sense of popular outrage at loss of life and economic effect) for Russia, and which categories of population can be recruited for money and which shouldn't, he confirmed that the resource exports money source can be reoriented to other countries than the West, and he made unofficially NATO-aligned countries officially that.

EU's defense spending increasing is at the expense of other things.

They also proved they’re a paper tiger and their arms manufacturing is crap. Oh and of course sanctions and the war completely wrecking the economy.

They proved that to themselves too and reacted. Changed the military doctrine, evolved new tactics and strategy, built new MIC production chains. Russian army was inexperienced and thoroughly rotten, now it's not. Russian weapons were expensive and untested, now there are cheap drones of various kinds produced on scale and used, well-tested and constantly improved.

The economy is not completely wrecked. It really seemed to be going there many times over these years. Some of the people who told me it's going to crumble are professors. It's not even approaching that anymore. I live in Russia.

People working in the Russian Central Bank are very competent. One can talk and talk about good and evil, but their work has been perfect basically since 1999 till now. And people making actual decisions too understand a lot.

It seems intuitively (incorrectly) that the way Russian society is built, with its inequality and injustice, it can't bear a big war. But if slaveholder agrarian societies and feudal societies could fight wars with their plutocratic contemporaries, then Russia's mafia feudalism can fight Western societies. Which are honestly too slowly changing to mafia feudalism ; perhaps some will flip to fascism.

Considering what all those western nations have shown themselves, I'm honestly not sure there are good guys here, and if there are none, then I'm kinda almost feeling patriotic. But I don't understand why Putin had to invade Ukraine, Zelensky was fucking elected because of his promises to make peace and restore ties, and for the national interest it made much bigger sense to just do that, Ukraine would still be naturally dependent.

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[-] myster0n@feddit.nl 2 points 2 months ago

And all of Alaska of course

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[-] Gsus4@feddit.nl 44 points 2 months ago
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[-] WanderingThoughts@europe.pub 40 points 2 months ago

When current news gives you flashbacks to the Cyberpunk 2077 lore. The names and dates are different but the trends and events match enough to give the uncanny feeling. Agencies in the streets being deployed, USA in trade war losing irrelevance, going for the Central American war and then losing. By the way, that's why cybernetic limbs got so good, they needed them to patch up the soldiers from that war.

[-] datavoid@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 months ago

How does one lose irrelevance?

[-] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 15 points 2 months ago

By gaining relevance!

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 months ago

If people stop trading with you, you start becoming irrelevant. If you stop producing science, you stop becoming revelant.

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

But that would be losing relevance

[-] datavoid@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 months ago

I'm sorry, we were looking for "sex tape"

[-] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca 28 points 2 months ago

The US isn’t ready for a two front war where the whole world wants to get rid of them. They don’t have the cards.

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 13 points 2 months ago

Please... I'm not a big fan of the US right now either. But that is just an absurd claim. No one is going to willingly open up a front against the US.

Like it or not, but they absolutely have the cards.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

what "front? there are already millions of Mexicans deep in the USA that would not stand for an attack on their country

[-] FenrirIII@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago

You mean the country they willingly fled, often due to cartel violence?

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

the vast majority are economic migrants... and yes talk to any Mexican, they are loyal to Mexico, always and forever

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

Let's entertain your idea here for a second. How do you think that's going to go?

My guess, the at the first hint of any type of insurrection, best case. Latinos and Japanese-Americans are gonna have something in common. Worst case; full blown ethnic cleaning carried out by local militias.

I'm not condoning either. That's just what I personally think might happen.

[-] Jhex@lemmy.world 3 points 2 months ago

lol you assume Mexicans are as meek as Americans proved to be

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[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 months ago

That's wrong, the US can eat a couple of countries just fine. The efficiency is atrocious, but the sheer inherited strategic power and logistics and stockpiles, and the amount of funding allowing to, say, build drones analogous to Russian "Geran" 100x times more expensive in the same amounts as Russia does, - all these make many wars a certain victory in the sense of destroying the other side's forces and possibly civilian population.

Anyway. Two things.

1 - In his previous term there was squeal from all sides how he's going to institute fascism right now. "The boy who cried wolves" may be a valid analogy or it may not. I think before anything like this the US will have an open change of the regime. At the same time - it's very convenient to have the land border with other countries very narrow, when instituting totalitarianism (resistance fighters, people trying to flee, all kinds of stuff), so possibly eating Mexico and Canada and doing a regime change after that is good enough.

2 - Perhaps any kind of a war is easier done after, suppose, an economic crisis happens. AI bubble burst, or something like that.

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[-] DrSoap@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago

Why? What's even the end goal? A war to stay in office maybe?

[-] PunnyName@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

Martial Law is definitely on his wishlist.

[-] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

If this was a competent president. I would probably give them the benefit of the doubt.

But we all know Trump only cares about one thing. And it's not the US. It's himself.

He may very well be under the impression that it will somehow give him more time in office, or it's just some way for him to try and get better approval rating. How he is percieved by the US is of major importance to his ego.

He hates how his approval is lower than Obamas. And he probably hates how his approval is lower than G.W.Busch.

G.W.Busch had an approval rating of around ~60%. Then a certain incident happened and his approval went to as high as 92% at a certain time.

Trump might, for some reason. Think that him starting/provoking a war will give him a similar boost.

Ofc to you and me it sounds insane and we know that's not going to improve his rating. But we are reasonable, normal people with common sense.

[-] Deflated0ne@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

Faltering empires always flail about militarily. Part of the death throes.

That said. It would almost be worth him doing it just to see what happens when Mexico invokes Article 5.

[-] darkpanda@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 months ago
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[-] A_norny_mousse@feddit.org 11 points 2 months ago

if and when he feels like it

I hate that this is an actionable threat.

[-] ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world 11 points 2 months ago

US - China proxy war of attrition coming or nah? Americans finally understanding the horrors of war might push their society into positive change...

[-] marsza@lemmy.cafe 13 points 2 months ago

That’s a funny joke.

[-] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 months ago

There's a lot of countries that are sick of china's shit, I think the US would actually have a lot of support in a proxy war.

[-] HK65@sopuli.xyz 11 points 2 months ago

My man, Trump just fucked that up. Japan started to deal with China because of Trump.

The US is alone.

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? Username appropriate, I guess, lol.

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Oh, well thats nice of them, I guess. Who is Mexico attacking?

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[-] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 5 points 2 months ago

Attack Mexico.

Start Draft.

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[-] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 months ago

They're not really though or else we wouldn't hear about it until invasion day. It's more of his art of the deal bullshit

[-] Randomgal@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

Do you really think Trump would keep ihis mouth shut in favor of tactics? Have you even seen him talk?

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[-] blinfabian@feddit.nl 4 points 2 months ago

nah its just a distraction from the Epstein Files. nothing will really happen with these war plans

[-] Typhoon@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 months ago

Don't ever underestimate Trump's stupidity.

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