I once had some dude offer me $2K under blue book for a car and then taunt me when I told him it wasn't a serious offer. "yeah right like you're ever going to get that for it" he said. Got that price within a week and since I'm petty sometimes, I let him know
On the rare occasion that I make an offer for something it will be very low because that is what I'm willing to pay to deal with the whole 'male an offer' process. A low bid is a low bid, not an insult.
Then it would seem you are not like the person I'm taking issue with.
I tried to edit to clarify immediately after but there might be some timer before editing.
Your guy was much of a dick about you not taking the offer as the OP seller was about getting a low budget. People who treat 'make me an offer' as some kind of preset range and get mad that others don't agree make the whole offer process painful.
There's no "preset range", but I would agree that if something is worth anywhere near $300, an offer of $20 is akin to saying "come on stranger, I want this for free"
Odds are just as high that the example $360 is an insultingly inflated price just like the $20 is likely to be far lower than what someone else is willing to spend on whatever is being sold.
I gave up on marketplaces years ago after looking for a reasonably priced PS3. The number of people who thought their original model with 7 Madden games was worth $500 was absurd.
In my experience people will often offer $20 for anything worth up to $1000 and as little as $50, any less and they want it delivered for free.
The number of people who offered me $20 for my $1200 TV was staggering, and one woman wanted me to pay her to take my beanbag chairs.
It's an insult you are too ignorant to understand is an insult. You wasted their time with your bs
If people don't want to be 'insulted' by low offer then they shouldn't present it in a format that allows for offers that are 'too low'. It would take less time to reject the bid they allowed to happen than to write a response.
I have personally purchased at least one thing for 10% of the asking price (around $500) because I was the only one who wanted it and they wanted to get rid of it. That was what it was worth to me, I wasn't trying to haggle or anything, just made an offhand offer when walking by.
Weird. That works all the time on Pawn Stars
I used to offload used electronics on CraigsList. I would deeply discount to prevent people from wanting a refund. Then every offer was like this screenshot. I gave up and now I environmentally recycle perfectly good gear that someone could have enjoyed.
If you're offloading electronics that are going to ewaste center why not accept a $20 offer? Im genuinely interested because i often bid 5-20 on things i consider e waste and people reject it and continue trying to sell it for $100
I was already deeply discounting. I also give hardware away to friends and family (my old Synology NAS just got a new home with a friend). But for strangers to underbid so hard is fucking insulting. I am generous. I am not someone of which to take advantage.
But if noone is buying it for a price higher than the low ball offers, maybe those aren't low ball offers?
I tried to give away a clothes dryer one time and no one wanted it. Put it up for $30 and the offers came flying in.
I figured it's an issue with hagglers that haggle for haggling sake, and not about the value of the item.
If I want to sell something on marketplace, I put the price up, because I know somebody will ask for a big discount for a quick sale. I'm happy to move this faded couch set for $100, then I'm listing it for $200... and selling it for $100 to a person who offers to pick it up, too.
It's that kind of reasoning and makes haggling pointless imo, because sellers either don't take your lowball or they knew you'd lowball and charged high to start with so they have room to negotiate.
But as that one JC Penny guy accidentally proved, people love the illusion of good deals more than they love good value.
The funny thing is that you think everyone else is the problem when zero legit offers means its virtually certain your asking price was nonsense.
People with used obsolete goods often have expectations of value pegged to what they originally paid for it rather than what it’s worth.
Search your own or similar good on markets to see what other people are paying for similar or better goods.
Is Amazon selling something for 20 similar to what you paid 50 for 5 years ago? Shipped to your door tomorrow for free? Well then nobody is driving an hour out to your place next Tues to pay you 25.
There's a lot of people that think 95% of what they paid is a good discount.
If you actually want to sell something mark it at 50% of retail, because that's the area most things are worth.
well there’s a bit of human psychology at play here. if you see an item listed for lower than market value the seller has already implicitly devalued the item in the listing to the audience. it isn’t surprising some rational agents would then proceed to either ignore the listing out of fear of low quality or attempt to haggle for a lower price due to the already admittedly lesser value of the merchandise. it doesn’t make objective sense at all, i agree, but it makes a whole lot of systemic sense.
edit: idk maybe this is part of why sales signs are always so flashy?? they try to get dopamine and shit flowing to overcome this initial reaction? maybe you could emulate that with your listings somehow next time. i hate the hype culture too but ig you gotta play the game.
edit pt2: i also have a bunch of stuff in my collection if you ever wanna trade! not to be weird or soliciting or anything. always like seeing what people have in their curios.
Very similar boat. I just find neighborhood kids and nieces and nephews and give it to them to play with. My nephew now has a test machine instead of destroying his main laptop with crap.
Why not switch to a different platform? The screenshot in the post looks like eBay and I'm pretty sure you can disable the offers option there.
At least he isn't offering $0. When I put things for sale I occasionally get people PMing me begging to get the item for free and occasionally writing 200 word sob stories.
Do they ask for delivery 40 minutes away too. Then get mad when you say no
You mean 200 word AI results?
Don't take low ball offers personally. There are serious bids that deserve conversation and then those that don't. Move on.
But if you keep getting nothing, maybe you're the issue.
I can't tell if this is a shitty seller or shitty bidder. It could be a 25 dollar item the seller thinks is worth 350, or it could just be someone looking for a score.
If I'm making a serious bid I take 10-20% off max.
Ironically, the bid was for a gun which the buyer wanted to shoot himself with.
When we were looking for a house, we put an offer in on one and the seller replied that they thought the offer was "insulting". We thought that was rude but it was nothing compared to this.
We bid 10k under asking price because the owner ripped the place up and it needed tons of work. They said they would not accept any offers under asking. We thought about it and decided the house was in the perfect location and made the offer at asking price. They also were not happy about that because this was in 2021 and everything was selling for a ton over asking price. Thing is, those houses you could move into with minimal changes. This house needed abatement and a gutted bathroom and kitchen. We were the only offer and they begrudgingly accepted and tried every which way to nickel and dime us before closing.
Some sellers are delusional and think their house is special and that it will sell for more than they list, even expect it.
There have been times where I made an offer and the seller countered and based on their contingencies, I got the vibe that they were going to be an asshole through closing.
One seller even threatened to sue even though I was fully within my rights to walk away. My response to my agent was "tell them to serve me papers."
Never heard from them again.
Jesus wept. "Let me sue someone for not treating this ruinous housing bubble like I'm royalty for deigning to receive offers of fabulous wealth".
People have overbid 10-20% or even more here in NL in the last few months for all kind of houses and apartments. Including once that need a ton of work.
A friend of mine put in a offer on a house a year ago - at their asking price - and got a similar response. Like don't make that your asking price if you're going to get angry when people offer that? But I guess all the houses around that area were selling above asking and they probably already had much higher offers, still doesn't excuse them being a dick.
I put in an offer on a house that had been on the market for months at 97% of their asking price. I was pretty familiar with the market, and the offer was probably more than the house was worth, but I had seen 80ish homes by that point, and this was by far the best fit. It was still very much a buyer's market at this time, and people would crow about getting offers so close to their asking price. Well, my realtor came back and told me the guy said my offer made his wife cry and they refused to negotiate further. Well ok, I moved on. About six weeks later they came back and asked if my offer was still good. I guess they finally got another offer and it was much lower. We did close the sale, but I found out later that his selling agent said he was one of those nightmare clients that just had totally unrealistic expectations about the whole process. Facebook marketplace is basically this without the agents to facilitate the process, so its pretty messy at times.
Fun story. I once put my car on a site called lease busters because my ex and I were looking to get a bigger vehicle and there was 3 years left on the lease.
It's long lost to time but I had a dude message me saying he would be willing to take the lease but said I could keep the car and insurance under my name.
Like what in the absolute fuck?!
In the offerers defense that is probably a price at or above current retail for a product with massive deprecation and in moderate to good condition.
I have offers turned off on eBay for this reason. The only thing you ever get is low ball offers. Yes, I know you can set a lowerbound limit.
Since I have offers disabled (or if someone wants to try to underbid your setpoint out of optimism and/or stupidity) that prompts the lowballers message instead. Usually with an insulting poorly spelled paragraph attached, or some sob story. Or both. But since they messaged you, that means you now have their user handle and can block them. So, goodbye.
Edit: In fact, speak of the devil. I had to punk exactly such a rando right now. They came at me with a 50% offer on an item I already have listed at roughly 50% below its selling price with their excuse being, "Well, I'm taking a risk trusting you that it works." Broheim, if it doesn't work eBay will force me to take it back, no matter what... The beauty of this, by the way, is that this precludes such idiots from interacting with your listings anymore and, I think, even being able to view them. So you'll never even see them again, unless they go out of their way to create another account. And they lose out on their chance to buy whatever your thing was at any price through their sheer greed and ineptitude.
I'm given to understand a sizable fraction of these dweebs try to make their living lowballing whoever they assume are desperate sellers of crap on eBay, and then turn around and list the same item right back for full price.
We just got an offer for a conglomerate worth €700, that we had put in for €350. The first offer was someone who only wanted some of it (basically all of the good parts, which is 90% of the value), and only offered €100.
Story time:
My father loves to sell shit online. He always has ever since I was a little kid. He is really good at ‘wheelin n dealin’ with people. I used to always think he could just shit in a can and manage to sell it to some dope online for a living.
He started selling on craigslist and ebay in the early days but has since moved to other platforms such as fb market place. One day, he decided to sell an electric rototiller on market place. I forgot what the listing price was but I do remember it being a reasonable price. I was sitting with him on his porch when he recieved a very low ball offer from a college student for it. My father became very upset over it as, according to him, low ballers have become very prevalent. He told me that he was sick of dealing with low ballers so he decided to go on google and find the address to an abandoned farm in the middle of nowhere. It was a little over an hour (maybe 1.5hrs) away from the low baller by car. He gave the address to the low baller and told him to swing by and pick it up. For some reason the low baller thought he would need a uhaul for taking it (it was very small, not a full size rototiller so it could easily fit in a regular car) so he rented one and set out for the farm.
My fathers plan was to wait until the guy was about half way to the farm (my father told the low baller to let him know when he was on his way so my father would have time to get it ready) and then call the low baller and explain to him that he shouldn’t be a low baller and that the address is fake. So I guess my father wanted to teach him a lesson about respect. Well my father forgot to call the guy. So the low baller drove all the way to the farm for nothing. When the low baller called my father, my father told him that he shouldnt low ball like that and he gets what he deserves. My father then hung up on him. This guy kept calling my father non stop to yell at him. He even called from different phone numbers when my father stopped picking up the phone. The dude was pissed. He kept going on (otp) about how my father screwed him as he was a poor college student who spent a lot of money on a uhaul. Eventually the low baller stopped calling.
Maybe next time: dont low ball
Someone sent me a text message that wasn't to my liking so I ruined their day and cost them 100s of dollars just to teach them a lesson instead of just telling them not to send low ball overs and blocking him, yeah your dad's the asshole in this story bud
Your father is the asshole here
Alright, 25€$, but that's my last offer.
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